Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/topic/24288/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html en-us Copyright 2006, Kickapps feeds@kickapps.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@kickapps.com (WebMaster) Mon, 11 May 2009 12:29:24 GMT Mon, 11 May 2009 20:09:12 GMT Kickapps Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://kickapps.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173759/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173759 feeds@kickapps.com (BCash) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173759 Mon, 11 May 2009 20:09:12 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173757/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173757 2. It would cut out the summer amateur leagues.
3. All your seniors and draft-eligible juniors would leave the team in the middle of the season. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (patdog) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173757 Mon, 11 May 2009 19:58:11 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173729/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173729 The better chance of a story being done might actually be
David Brandt finding out how much revenue was created with the
addition of the Rebel stadium, and compare it to the rest of the conference including the
new LSU and USC stadiums.
]]> feeds@kickapps.com (ScoobaDawg) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173729 Mon, 11 May 2009 16:32:34 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173728/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173728 http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_reports/

It's not as helpful because it's broken down into football, men's basketball, women's basketball, and other. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Maroon Eagle) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173728 Mon, 11 May 2009 16:23:04 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173726/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173726 but its what was in the sheet from that source...

Do you still have the link for the IndyStars info?
I remember when we compared our numbers for the basketball expenses some of them were different too.
I suspect the only way we would ever have correct numbers is if a newspaper did a story on it.. Veazey???

Sounds like a good story idea to me.. cost of sports in economic slowdown.

]]> feeds@kickapps.com (ScoobaDawg) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173726 Mon, 11 May 2009 16:09:11 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173722/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173722 ScoobaDawg wrote:
From the same data that I used for Basketball Espenses earlier in the year..
http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetDownloadFile.aspx
I don't put too much faith until them, but it gives you some idea.

Only 7 teams claim profit, Not one SEC Team































































... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Maroon Eagle) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173722 Mon, 11 May 2009 15:39:50 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173721/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173721 http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetDownloadFile.aspx
I don't put too much faith until them, but it gives you some idea.

Only 7 teams claim profit, Not one SEC Team

institution_name Sports feeds@kickapps.com (ScoobaDawg) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173721 Mon, 11 May 2009 15:33:31 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173717/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173717 feeds@kickapps.com (Buffard Tannen) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173717 Mon, 11 May 2009 15:17:17 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173716/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173716 feeds@kickapps.com (Todd4State) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173716 Mon, 11 May 2009 15:14:32 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173714/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173714 feeds@kickapps.com (DerHntr) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173714 Mon, 11 May 2009 15:00:12 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173707/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173707
Our football tickets were priced at $7 per game when I was in school and basketball was $3 a game. That's relatively cheap in comparison to the regular ticket price, and the difference is made up in activity fees. I know some schools, even some bigger schools, like UT collect all that money in activity fees and they charge nothing even for football tickets. Their football tickets are first come, first served for students, or at least they used to be. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (RebelBruiser) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173707 Mon, 11 May 2009 14:24:47 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173703/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173703
That's one thing I never understood at State. I don't know about the other schools, but at State all basketball games and baseball games are free for students. That always seemed so stupid to me. Why not charge SOMETHING to get in? You could just charge a one-time fee of $40 or $50 for the entire season and that would make your Student ID active at the gates. Also, State is JUST now getting around to raising the season student football tickets from $3 a ticket. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (BCash) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173703 Mon, 11 May 2009 14:13:25 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173699/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173699 He's donated time, money, and land for local youth baseball and has also given money to upgrade UVA's baseball facilities. I believe his son also played for the Cavaliers.

]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Maroon Eagle) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173699 Mon, 11 May 2009 14:04:18 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173698/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173698
]]> feeds@kickapps.com (ScoobaDawg) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173698 Mon, 11 May 2009 14:02:23 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173696/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173696 Maroon Eagle wrote:
(and yes, Grisham is mentioned)

What's the story on Grisham and UVA? ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Fletch Fletcher) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173696 Mon, 11 May 2009 13:58:01 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173692/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173692 feeds@kickapps.com (RebelBruiser) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173692 Mon, 11 May 2009 13:43:11 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173682/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173682
But since the Chronicle also notes that 10 percent average 2,000 fans per game, I'd guess those schools might be among them.

The Indystar site might have some baseball financial numbers too. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Maroon Eagle) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173682 Mon, 11 May 2009 12:53:13 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173681/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173681 ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (ScoobaDawg) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173681 Mon, 11 May 2009 12:48:31 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173678/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173678
However, there are a couple of sidebar articles that go with it-- one on UVA baseball raising more money for the program (and yes, Grisham is mentioned) and another on Wichita St. coach Gene Stephenson wanting an April - August season. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Maroon Eagle) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173678 Mon, 11 May 2009 12:40:40 PST <![CDATA[ Re: Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/reply/173677/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html#reply-173677 ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (rhs43) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/sreply/173677 Mon, 11 May 2009 12:40:09 PST <![CDATA[ Chronicle of Higher Education article on college baseball's lack of profitability... ]]> http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/topic/24288/t/Chronicle--Higher-Education-article--college-baseball-s-lack.html link; viewing the article requires a subscription.

Some things of note that I've copied & pasted here from the article:

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But as it tries to stare down a wicked recession, baseball is starting to blink. Two universities - Northern Iowa and Vermont - have already announced that they will eliminate their programs after this season. The University of Massachusetts at Amherst, which started its team in 1877 and has placed 18 players in the major leagues, drew headlines for considering the idea. (It says the sport is safe for now.)

Experts predict more contraction in coming years. "A year ago, I never heard any of this. Now it's a great concern for everyone," says Dave Keilitz, executive director of the American Baseball Coaches Association. "This thing... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Maroon Eagle) http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/topic/24288 Mon, 11 May 2009 12:29:24 PST