Since Croom apparently ain't going anywhere ...

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Shmuley	Since Croom apparently ain't going anywhere ...		Lead	[-]
Posts: 1570 11/19/08 03:58 PM	Tags : None I'm left having to enjoy the efforts of other schools to divest themselves of shitty coaching. Exhibit A: University of Tennessee. "The latest information coming out of Knoxville states that Brian Kelly has broken free from the pack and is the leading candidate for the job." "I got an offer from Mississippi State last week," he said. "It feels good. Now I have something to fall back on." - Gulf Coast JC Kicker, Sean Brauchle
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thunderclap	It's gonna be real fun in December...	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1049 11/19/08 04:38 PM	watching all these other schools hire new coaches, getting excited again, and so forth. While we sit here and wallow in the mire.
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Mutt the Hoople	If Croom isn't going anywhere	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6487 11/19/08 04:44 PM King of Pointless Knowledge Played at Meridian High	Expect thousands of MState fans not to be going anywhere Scott Field next fall. If Greg byrne keeps Croom, he needs to set up a series of "3 game season ticket" packages, that include Alabama, Jackson State, and UAB, for $70. Bammers will buy up those tickets.
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OMlawdog	Just remember...	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 812 11/19/08 04:51 PM	Some Ole Miss fans were excited with Coach O. Bama fans were excited with Coach Shula. Michigan fans couldn't see straight with Coach Rodriguez. The excitement wears off when players that the previous coach recruited don't play nearly as hard and don't fit whatever system the new coach is bringing in. Also, what coaches are available. Make no mistake I think Ole Miss got very lucky with Nutt, if he stays at Ark, who do we hire? Neuheisel told us maybe, but we were second behind UCLA, and he would have went to UCLA. I don't think we would have gotten Johnson who went to Ga Tech, so who would we have hired? Seriously. It could have been an offensive line coach with recruiting rankings in his pocket, you just never know. If a change is made, I hope Byrne has a name in mind and a commitment from him prior to Croom being let go. Im pretty sure we had that in place, and when you are not a big fish like OM and MSU, you have to have all your ducks in a row, or you get stuck holding an O.
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Mutt the Hoople.buhoops		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 71 11/19/08 04:55 PM King of Pointless Knowledge Played at Meridian High	Im pretty sure we had that in place, and when you are not a big fish like OM and MSU, you have to have all your ducks in a row, or you get stuck holding an O. Yeah, but you wound up grabbing a Nutt and holding it tight.
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TBonewannabe	Coach O was a complete retard. UM was just hoping that he sucked off Pete Carrol enough to get	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 316 11/19/08 05:06 PM	some coaching ability. We honestly can't do hardly any worse than what we have. Unless our defense (which Croom just leaves alone) doesn't score enough to win, we don't have a chance. Most SEC schools would have fired Croom in his second year after he lost to Maine, Tulane, or whoever you want to list. Croom can win games only if something bad happens to the other team. Interceptions, fumbles or whatever.
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DowntownDawg	What is amusing to me....	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 971 11/19/08 05:08 PM	....is that names that have been floated on this board as possible replacements are all being mentioned for major jobs, pretty much knocking them out of our league. Leach (Ha), Kelly, Peterson, and Muschamp are all pretty much off the board. When we do end up with Croom, despite the salary we can pay, we'll end up with a retread or a noname. We won't get one of the hottest names in college football like many fools on this board believe.
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patdog		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9808 11/19/08 05:11 PM	OMlawdog wrote: Bama fans were excited with Coach Shula. If a change is made, I hope Byrne has a name in mind and a commitment from him prior to Croom being let go. Im pretty sure we had that in place, and when you are not a big fish like OM and MSU, you have to have all your ducks in a row, or you get stuck holding an O. After the 2006 season was over, I watched a 30-minute program on Kenny Stabler on one of the regional sports channels. It was obviously taped that summer. When they asked him about Shula, Stabler went on about how good of a job he was doing and how he was going to be at Bama for a long time and win a lot of games there. I got a kick out of that. I don't see anything that would indicate that you had any kind of deal in place with Nutt when you fired Orgeron. You even hired a search firm to help you find a new coach and then had to pay a cancellation fee when you found Nutt on your own within about 48 hours (my suspicion is that Nutt found you and Khayat/Boone had the sense to not waste any time saying yes).
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OMlawdog	Its my understanding...	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 813 11/19/08 05:30 PM	That after 50 people showed up for the NW St game, Khayat let it be known to agents that O was going to be let go, and Sexton basically said Nutt would be available. We inquired about Neuheisel who told us that he wanted the UCLA job, and basically told Sexton that we would hire Nutt immediately. Being an Ole Miss fan for as long as I have, there is no way possible we were able to make a decision this quickly and with very little controversy unless the parties had talked previously. I don't think Nutt leaves Arkansas unless he knows there is a plan in place somewhere comparable. Trust me, it is a rare occurrence for Ole Miss to do something right, but this kind of fell in our lap. Truth is that Tubby could fall in MSU's lap, not sure he would be interested, but it would be a great hire for MSU. No reason GB shouldn't put out feelers especially if Croom loses to Ark.
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dawgfan77		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 390 11/19/08 05:32 PM	You are correct, and that means that we need to look at a really good OC like Mullen at UF or the the OC at Mizz, or a guy who is a HC at a CUSA school like Tulsa or Rice. Just becuase you strike out with the hot names doesn't mean there aren't any good coaches out there. Hatcher at GSU, the guy at UT-Martin who actually went to school at MSU. I feel confidant when the day comes we hire a new HC we will make a good hire
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Shmuley	I'm going to wait for Byrne to make that hire ...	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1574 11/19/08 05:51 PM	before I pronounce despair on the future of MState football in the post-LT, post-Croom era.
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Shmuley	Jimmy Sexton has already talked to Byrne ...	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1575 11/19/08 05:52 PM	of that you can be assured.
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DowntownDawg	I trust in Byrne too....	#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 972 11/19/08 06:03 PM	....but it kills me that there are so many people throwing around the aforementioned names, that are so out of our league. Just because you are a retread (Nutt) or a noname (Tressell) doesn't mean it's a bad hire, and just because you are a big name doesn't make you a good hire (DickRod).
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RipleyReb	Several names that may be interested are....	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5 11/19/08 08:17 PM	Jeff Bower, Terry or Tommy Bowden, or Phil Fulmer. All have had success and are good football coaches. I know they don't have the flare of a Mike Leech or Chris Petersen, but I don't think Leech would be interested and it's not very often Western coaches come east of the MS. Of course, as mentioned, the coaches at Houston and Tulsa would probably do a good job as well. As for Coach Nutt, I think we (OM) got lucky to get him, and I hope we're smart enough to keep him. BTW, I hope ya'll stomp the Hogs because Petrino is an ass.
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Since Croom apparently ain't going anywhere ...	11/19/08 03:58 PM	Shmuley
It's gonna be real fun in December...	11/19/08 04:38 PM	thunderclap
Just remember...	11/19/08 04:51 PM	OMlawdog
Re: Since Croom apparently ain't going anywhere ...	11/19/08 04:55 PM	Mutt the Hoople.buhoops
Coach O was a complete retard. UM was just hoping that he sucked off Pete Carrol enough to get	11/19/08 05:06 PM	TBonewannabe
Re: Since Croom apparently ain't going anywhere ...	11/19/08 05:11 PM	patdog
Its my understanding...	11/19/08 05:30 PM	OMlawdog
Jimmy Sexton has already talked to Byrne ...	11/19/08 05:52 PM	Shmuley
If Croom isn't going anywhere	11/19/08 04:44 PM	Mutt the Hoople
What is amusing to me....	11/19/08 05:08 PM	DowntownDawg
Re: Since Croom apparently ain't going anywhere ...	11/19/08 05:32 PM	dawgfan77
I'm going to wait for Byrne to make that hire ...	11/19/08 05:51 PM	Shmuley
I trust in Byrne too....	11/19/08 06:03 PM	DowntownDawg
Several names that may be interested are....	11/19/08 08:17 PM	RipleyReb

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