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    With the new betting laws

    Given their culture of corruption at Ole Miss and their failure to win a regular season SEC championship (other than 2009 baseball which they shared) in the big three sports in the post segregation era, will this provide an opportunity for point shaving given their level of desperation?


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    Incoming downvote storm. Take cover.


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    Not a chance

    Gambling always brings out the best in people


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    Wallacing


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    I saw where New Jersey laws prevent you from betting on NJ college teams. I wouldn't be shocked for MS to do the same. Prop bets are where college sports could get ugly. Stuff like "will the first shot be a 3 pointer". You get to the right kid and he's taking a 33 footer.
    90 percent of college football teams do not cheat...the other 10 percent are ranked.


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    I think the chances of point shaving type incidents are much more likely as a result of illegal betting as opposed to legal betting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Willow Grove Dawg View Post
    I think the chances of point shaving type incidents are much more likely as a result of illegal betting as opposed to legal betting.
    Right. Everything is way more traceable when done through the formal channels. That being said, I donít know of a single person who has wanted to bet on games that hasnít found a way to do so even with it being ďillegalĒ, so I imagine it will be very little impact overall. People will continue to use the bookies theyíve always used unless they live within easy driving distance of the casinos.


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    People will use bookies to dodge taxes.
    90 percent of college football teams do not cheat...the other 10 percent are ranked.


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    People will use local bookies because the bookies will give them credit. The casinos makes you pay any potential loss when you place the bet.


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    I may be a small minority, but I don't bet because it is illegal and will now that it is legal.

    I previously wasn't worried about getting in trouble as much as I was worried that I would get screwed with no recourse.


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    You arenít alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasDawg13 View Post
    I may be a small minority, but I don't bet because it is illegal and will now that it is legal.

    I previously wasn't worried about getting in trouble as much as I was worried that I would get screwed with no recourse.
    Iím not a big gambler but the thought of going down to tunica for a weekend in the fall to watch games and places a few bets during March madness is appealing to me.

    I suspect that Iím part of an untapped market that casinos are anxious to capitalize on bc otherwise I donít have a lot of gambling interest. Give me access to dozens af TVs and big screens and good food/booze and Iíll place a few bets on what Iím watching. Actually, already booked a room during he first round games for the menís tournament. Iím sure there will be good setups by then.


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    Don't know what I'd do with myself if I couldn't bet on Rutgers


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    Quote Originally Posted by ezsoil View Post
    Given their culture of corruption at Ole Miss and their failure to win a regular season SEC championship (other than 2009 baseball which they shared) in the big three sports in the post segregation era, will this provide an opportunity for point shaving given their level of desperation?
    Don't see it for two reasons. 1) The opportunity to participate in points shaving already exists right now and you can't provide an opportunity that's already in place. 2) Pretty much the entirety of their corruption has been associated with illegally gaining competitiveness with a goal of winning games. Points shaving is a completely different thing that actually results in being illegally less competitive with a goal of making money.

    Someone put it like this. Prohibition did not dissuade people from drinking alcohol. Prohibition of sports betting has not dissuaded people from wagering on games.
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    This is a long piece, but it's a great read. I realize the OP was probably making a joke, but this addresses some of the common misconceptions about the how's and why's of point shaving. The main thing I learned is how detectable it is.

    https://www.si.com/vault/1998/11/09/...sketball-games

    eta: As a personal side note I well remember betting on the Arizona/Dallas game he mentions in the story. I had Arizona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasDawg13 View Post
    I may be a small minority, but I don't bet because it is illegal and will now that it is legal.

    I previously wasn't worried about getting in trouble as much as I was worried that I would get screwed with no recourse.
    There is always a recourse with your local bookie. You just have to man up and take care of business.
    I never had any issue with a local bookie except one who wouldn't take my wagers anymore because Igot lucky and winning too much.
    But they always paid up, as did I when I lost.

    I can see where you could get screwed online though.


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    With sports betting and the state flag, I'm sure the NCAA will be eager to host championship events in Mississippi.


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    If this truly materializes for a bunch of different states, it’s going to transform the college athlete. The student athletes will end up getting paid through some type of royalty when its all said and done.

    This will help maintain or improve the integrity of the game, and leave questions about any outside influences on the sidelines.

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