Without a proven leader at QB, with Miles still at the helm, I bet they lose 3-4 games. Flynn, Hester, Steltz, Dorsey, those guys were leaders with heart.
BIG losses. I like LSU, but I don't think, nor have a I ever thought, Les Miles was a good coach. But you cannot argue with a National Title, even though
his players were basically all NFL caliber. Larry Coker also won a Title you know.
Still, I think you see LSU at 8-4 about No. 20 in the country towards the end. Sorry Stallion.
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LSU, LSU, LSU, LSU, LSU....... | #1 | ||
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Coach34 |
you serious Clark? | #2 | ||
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Miles is only 63-24 as a head college coach with a National Title...yeah, he's terrible...
The same people that talk about Carroll being a solid QB in the SEC wanna bash LSU with a 4-star QB this season? Really? They may have the best OL and DL in the nation...they are loaded at RB and WR...very good at TE... I question their inexperienced secondary more than their QB. They are going to line up on offense, run it down peoples throats (and they have more of a big-play threat this year in Murphy than Hester), and throw simple passes to their WR's till Lee gets some experience. Anybody like you Bi-polar that wants to praise Crooms for the way he handled Carroll last year as a true freshmens and how he performed, cant possibly bash LSU and their 4-star QB who is in his 3rd year in college btw... Now, they may lose 3 games because they play @Auburn, and then @Fla, @SC, and home against Georgia in a row...but it wont be because they are over-rated
"I don't think LSU finishes at the bottom of the West, by any stretch, but I think think they have the least chance of winning it." - Bulldogbaja on the upcoming SEC West
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Goat Holder |
My days of getting drawn into a Peaches argument are over.... | #3 | ||
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so I'll say a few things and leave you with it.
The same people that talk about Carroll being a solid QB in the SECWhat's that got to do with anything? He can be solid. As solid as he wants to be. They may have the best OL and DL in the nation...they are loaded at RB and WR...very good at TE...They were even better last year and lost 2 games. Almost lost a couple more. You act like high school rated talent alone is all that matters. You should know better. Anybody like you Bi-polar that wants to praise Crooms for the way he handled Carroll last year as a true freshmens and how he performed, cant possibly bash LSU and their 4-star QB who is in his 3rd year in college btw... Speculate much? Lots of QB's, regardless of star rating, take time to develop. Happen to catch Stafford's first year at Georgia? They lost to Vanderbilt. Anthony Morelli? Vince Young? Lee's in his 2nd year of college by the way. Now, they may lose 3 games because they play @Auburn, and then @Fla, @SC, and home against Georgia in a row...but it wont be because they are over-ratedNice contradiction. Come on, I expected better than that. The least you could do is talk about LSU, you know, the team I mentioned, without having to bring up MSU and bash them to attempt to prove a point.
"You believe a 4-seed Fresno State was as talented through and through as Georgia (top SS, top closer, and several other
draftees)?" - WillemWallace, 7-10-08, just weeks after Fresno State outscored Georgia 31-18 in the College World Series Finals to win the National
Championship.
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Coach34 |
C'mon Goat... | #4 | ||
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Basically, Lee is a better QB than Carroll is what its got to do with it. And hate to tell you, he is starting his 3rd year in college....LSU will manage the game with him just as they have other QB's that havent had alot of starts (like that guy Flynn last year)...All i heard out of you and others last year was that there was no way they could replace Russell and Miles was going to fall on his face...how did that work out for ya? "They were even better last year and lost 2 games. Almost lost a couple more. You act like high school rated talent alone is all that matters.
You should know better."
aGAIN, their schedule may do them in, but they arent over-rated...and Auburn better have their shit together when they come to town...
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How did you come to the conclusion.... | #5 | ||
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codeDawg |
Don't LSU fans have their own board? | #6 | ||
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Just say'n.
I can't close down the bar anymore, but I can sure as hell open it up.
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Coach34 |
if you would have noticed about this thread... | #7 | ||
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it wasnt about State. Its about ranked teams. Try to follow along better next time
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agree completely. talk about LSU til you are blue in the face for all i care. | #8 | ||
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i knew you would be responding anyways since LSU was named as overrated in the orginal article.
too bad state wasn't ranked so that you could call us overrated due to the lack of offense. then you would have been able to fight both of your more common battles at the same time.
If you're on a message board you are part of the problem. --- Berry Tramel @ The Oklahoman
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cowbell9 |
Get the corndog out of your ass . | #9 | ||
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codeDawg |
I was referencing the poster, not the post. | #10 | ||
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I can't close down the bar anymore, but I can sure as hell open it up.
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bulldogbaja |
Coach, I was disappointed when you didn't reply to my last thread | #11 | ||
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about this topic. Of course, I probably wouldn't have either.
Last I heard, that "4-star" QB wasn't playing well enough to beat the walk-on. Hardly awe-inspiring. By the way, we have a 4-star QB too. He's second string. All the talent in the world with no QB can't win games- just ask Charlie Weiss. "Their schedule may do them in." That's exactly what I've been saying. We should start calling you john kerry. You think at #6 they're not overrated?? 17ing #6? |
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Coach34 |
I dont and here is why... | #12 | ||
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if you gave every other top 10 team their schedule...and having to play @Auburn, @Fla, @SC, and then Georgia...those teams would have at least 1-2 losses as well..talent-wise they are one of the top 10 teams in the nation, thats not even disputable... I think they will play a little more conservative and let him hand off more behind that great line. That will help him alot. You think Auburn feels alot better about their QB situation right now?
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SLUdog |
If they lose 3 games then they are probably.... | #13 | ||
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overrated according to this poll. I'm convinced Miles is a good coach, but they have lost 2 games every year he's been there. Last year they lost to
two average SEC teams and won many close ones (Auburn, Bama, UF). I just don't think LSU will finish as high as ranked here. They do have an inexperienced
QB and lost some serious leadership from last year's team. It might not matter because they are loaded with talent.
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Todd4State |
As far as LSU | #14 | ||
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I think another thing that is about to happen to them is a post-BCS Championship hangover. I really could see them losing four games, especially with either a
Fr. or a walk-on at QB. They can outman some teams- like State- but when it comes to teams that have similar talent, the instability at QB could do them in.
Now, the Fr. QB may step up, but even guys like Matt Stafford have had growing pains in the SEC.
Also, you have to think that LSU probably used all of their good fortune up last year- like making the BCS title game after losing to Arkansas, beating Auburn where they basically won on a ball that they just threw up in the air, and beating the officials at Bama, and of course, having an easy draw with an overrated Ohio State team in New Orleans. |
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"I'm convinced Miles is a good coach, but they have lost 2 games every year he's been there."
He has also won 10 games every year he has been there...and nobody else in their history can say that...
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8Dog |
Without a proven leader?... | #16 | ||
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Goat Holder |
Yes. Those two were great game managers and leaders.* | #17 | ||
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8Dog |
But you didn't know that until... | #18 | ||
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AFTER their nat'l title years.
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