6 for 6 in SBs and 10 HBPs over the weekend...
Not too shabby.
Not too shabby.
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 dawgstudent |
Question for baseball enthusiasts... | #1 | ||
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Posts: 15780 02/23/09 12:15 PM The Godfather |
is there some point where the reputation of reaching base of HBP will eventually catch up with you?
I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and The Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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coursesuper |
Some may think it bush league... | #2 | ||
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Posts: 1164 02/23/09 12:17 PM |
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graddawg |
Catch up with you, how? | #3 | ||
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Posts: 1904 02/23/09 12:18 PM |
In recruiting? In coaching circles? In the way home plate umps call the game?
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dawgstudent |
In not getting to first base... | #4 | ||
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Posts: 15781 02/23/09 12:19 PM The Godfather |
To clarify, I am speaking of baseball's first base.
I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and The Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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8Dog |
I've never understood the argument against it... | #5 | ||
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Posts: 5708 02/23/09 12:20 PM Message Board Hero |
the umpire has the authority to call you back if he thinks you leaned in. If you start bailing out on inside pitches you're letting the pitcher have far
too much liberty in working you inside. Its not just about getting on base, its about forcing the pitcher to work the outer 2/3 of the plate.
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Shmuley |
I see it as an advantage. ... | #6 | ||
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Posts: 2283 02/23/09 12:21 PM |
The rep puts pressure on the pitcher concerning the inner half. Introduces something else for the pitcher to think about. I like it.
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Shmuley |
Great minds. *** | #7 | ||
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Posts: 2284 02/23/09 12:22 PM |
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RobertF50 |
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Posts: 231 02/23/09 12:22 PM |
I did not think any of them looked like we were trying to be hit except once with Goforth and he was not given the base. The rest just looked like our guys
were not giving away the inside of the plate. I don't see why it would come back and bite us. I like our hustle on the bases. If we're going to be
thrown out four times at third in four games at least it is now instead of SEC games.
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Todd4State |
The other teams might | #9 | ||
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throw try to brush our hitters back and knock them down. The other coaches will bitch about it to the umpires to the point where they may not allow a hitter to
go to first base if he gets plunked.
The rule, as I have had it explained to me, and I think Patdog kind of alluded to this, is that the hitter has to make an effort to get out of the way of the pitch. That's very subjective, of course, and this weekend, one of our hitters was indeed not allowed to go to first base because of this. Of course, Cohen is well aware of this, and I'm 100% sure that he has made it known to our hitters that if they get hit to make sure that they do something to at least try to make it look like we are getting out of the way. The thing I like about it is that when you have a reputation for doing something like leaning in, it gives the other team something else to think about. It also puts a thought in the back of the pitcher's mind, "Hey, if I go inside they might lean into the pitch." You're essentially taking away half of the plate. Putting thoughts like that into a pitcher's head make it harder for them to execute their pitches and puts more pressure on them to make an even more perfect pitch. |
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jakldawg |
As long as we don't pull stuff like this | #10 | ||
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Posts: 1566 02/23/09 12:47 PM |
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rexxx |
Non only that... | #11 | ||
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Posts: 275 02/23/09 12:51 PM |
Also, we went a whole weekend without probably our best player and I did not hear anyone harp on that fact, nor did I hear anyone complain about the NCAA.
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MadDawg |
How many times were we thrown out at third? | #12 | ||
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Posts: 3925 02/23/09 01:31 PM AssMan |
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Todd4State |
Three | #13 | ||
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By the same guy.
He was a really good player- probably their best. |
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Posts: 309 02/23/09 01:43 PM |
"You're essentially taking away half of the plate. Putting thoughts like that into a pitcher's head make it harder for them to execute their
pitches and puts more pressure on them to make an even more perfect pitch."
Exactly. Plus you will always have umpires whose strike zones reach 6 inches off the plate and now you have the advantage of not only reaching outside pitches but making solid contact. 
Last Edited By: Original48 02/23/09 01:48 PM.
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MSUArrowCS |
I heard Burroughs yell multiple times to the batter ... | #15 | ||
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Posts: 685 02/23/09 01:47 PM |
"Stand your ground up there". HBP or no, it's a solid approach to hitting.
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8Dog |
I think the rule now... | #16 | ||
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Posts: 5710 02/23/09 01:59 PM Message Board Hero |
allows the batter to "freeze" and get hit if the ball is clearly within the batters box. Seems to me that you would really have to crowd the plate to
get hit by a ball not clearly within the batters box.
What's funny is, when we hit another teams batter, the last thing I do is blame the batter or the opposing coach. |
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1msucub |
Classic | #17 | ||
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Posts: 51 02/23/09 02:03 PM |
I LOVE that clip. That's the worst display of (un)sportsmanship I've ever seen.
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patdog |
Wrong. Here's the rule. | #18 | ||
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Posts: 10741 02/23/09 02:07 PM |
Per baseball official rule 6.08(b), a batter becomes a baserunner and is awarded
first base when he or his equipment (except for his bat):
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RaiderDawg24 |
It may effect a HBP call in a particular game.. | #19 | ||
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Posts: 304 02/23/09 02:08 PM |
I have seen teams lean into a few, the opposing coach complains, then later in the game the Ump would not award a borderline legitimate HBP when he thinks they
are just leaning into the pitch. That doesn't happen often though.
Its an effective way to get a few extra runners on base per game, and it can completely frustrate a pitcher to the point he loses command of his pitches. I have seen pitches blow up after letting a few runners on base like that. It is smart, aggressive baseball. |
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8Dog |
Im going off... | #20 | ||
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Posts: 5711 02/23/09 02:10 PM Message Board Hero |
page 87 in this attachment. Maybe Im looking at the wrong thing:
http://www.ncaapublicatio...22f-9485-e7318255488f.pdf |
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