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dawgstudent
05-29-2013, 05:44 PM
DATE
OPPONENT


8-31-13
Oklahoma State @Houston, TX


9-7-13
ALCORN STATE


9-14-13
at Auburn


9-21-13
TROY


10-5-13
LOUISIANA STATE


10-12-13
BOWLING GREEN


10-26-13
KENTUCKY


11-2-13
at South Carolina


11-9-13
at Texas A&M


11-16-13
ALABAMA


11-23-13
at Arkansas


11-28-13
MISSISSIPPI (Thur.)



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dawgstudent
08-20-2013, 08:42 AM
6-6 (3-5)

3 easiest OOC and Kentucky, Arkansas and Ole Miss.

I have made 3 different predictions the past 2 or 3 days. As long as we go to our 4th straight bowl game, I will be ecstatic. If we get to 7-5, this will be Mullen's 2nd best coaching year behind 2010.

121Josey
08-20-2013, 08:48 AM
8-4 (4-4) L's - 4 out of last 5. TSUN and OKstate could go either way. (Mullen "gets it done" with more than 4 victories*)

PBRME
08-20-2013, 08:59 AM
My gut tells me 5-6, my heart tells me 6-6. I can't predict a loss to OM this early in the year so 6-6 it is.
3-5 Sec wins Alcorn, Auburn, Troy, BG, KY, OM.
Auburn, AR, and OM will make or break this season.

patdog
08-20-2013, 09:04 AM
Being realistic, 6-6 (3-5). Want to pull the trigger on 7-5 (4-4), but I'm afraid that's picking with my heart instead of my head.

Hump4Hoops
08-20-2013, 09:08 AM
Wins over the 3 easy non-con, UK, Ark, Aub, om.

There are people saying that Auburn could be a surprise contender in the west - the same team that went winless in the SEC last year. Those people are not rational. I think Arkansas is a closer game than we would like, but we get it done.

Last year, for the first time since '08, ole miss came into the egg bowl giving way more of a shit than we did. unless we come into that game with less than 5 wins, there is no possible way that happens again. We win by more than a touchdown.

We manage to play LSU close until late in the 4th again, and somehow lose by more than a touchdown. Alabama, USC, aTm, and OKState beat our heads in.

TSUNBearHunter
08-20-2013, 09:10 AM
5-7 (2-6)

TobiasFunke
08-20-2013, 09:22 AM
nm

Heawww
08-20-2013, 09:28 AM
Lose to the Pokes out of the gate, everybody gets down
Roll Alcorn
Soundly beat Auburn on the Plains
Beat Troy by 10
Beat LSU on a FG in OT
Soundly beat BG
Soundly beat UK
Lose soundly at SC
Lose soundly at aTm
Lose a 10 pt or so game vs Bama
Roll up Arkansas
Beat Ole Miss by 10, game never really in doubt

Coach 57
08-20-2013, 09:37 AM
8-4. Guys don't sleep on this team, I'm telling you! If we beat Ok St we WILL be 7-0 (yes i say we beat LSU @ home this year) heading to SC. It will be a a close game. But we'll lose a heart breaker to SC. But I personally think we'll lose to Ok St winning 6 of our first 7 (still beating LSU). Then afterwards losing to SC, aTm & Bama. But then beating Arkansas & Rebearsharks.

BIG STANK
08-20-2013, 09:46 AM
nm

skb124
08-20-2013, 09:51 AM
7-5 (4-4)
Wins- alcorn, Troy, BGSU, lsu, Arkansas, ole miss, and Kentucky.
Losses- OSU, A&M, bama, South Carolina, auburn

columbiadawg2
08-20-2013, 10:13 AM
3 OOC (Not OK State), UK and Auburn. Two things I can never predict is for us to beat LSU ever or for us to beat Arkansas in Little Rock. I have a really bad feeling going into this year.

Bud
08-20-2013, 10:24 AM
7-5 (4-4)

OSU-blowout loss
Alcorn-blowout win
Auburn-heartbreaker
Troy-pull away late
LSU-squeak out a close win, in a game we dominate statistically
BG-close, but win
UK-control the game from the start(workman like)
USC-loss-close for a half
aTm-loss-closer than the experts think
Bama-not a chance
Arkansas-nice win
Mississippi-nasty hate filled game, we beat that ass with a viscous physical game. I would be surprised if there is not a fight or two.

boatsandhoes
08-20-2013, 10:26 AM
7-5 (4-4) Ok State is a toss up. Otherwise, I say LSU-L, USC-L, aTm-L, Bama-L.

ckDOG
08-20-2013, 10:55 AM
Wins: Alcorn, Troy, BG

Likely Wins: UK, @Arkansas

Either way: @Auburn, OM, OSU

Likely Losses: LSU, @A&M, @USC

Losses: Alabama

I think we take care of the wins and likely wins and go 1-2 in the either way, most likely winning the OM game. Snagging 2 or more of the either ways and any of the likely losses is gravy for me. 6-6 is actually pretty respectable for this schedule. I'm also tempted in putting LSU in the either way category, but it's LSU.

ColonelJohnSartoris
08-20-2013, 10:59 AM
<tbody>
DATE
OPPONENT


8-31-13
Oklahoma State @Houston, TX L


9-7-13
ALCORN STATE W


9-14-13
at Auburn L


9-21-13
TROY W


10-5-13
LOUISIANA STATE L


10-12-13
BOWLING GREEN W


10-26-13
KENTUCKY W


11-2-13
at South Carolina L


11-9-13
at Texas A&M L


11-16-13
ALABAMA L


11-23-13
at Arkansas L


11-28-13
MISSISSIPPI (Thur.) L

</tbody>

4-8 (1-7)

7+ underdogs in all the Losses except against Auburn. That's the toss up but it doesn't seem your Defense fares well against that style of Offense (see TAMU & OM last year).

Dawg Jurist
08-20-2013, 11:01 AM
8-4

I think we catch LSU at our house at a great time. LSU, Ark and Ole Miss could go either way. I'm (maybe stupidly) counting Auburn as a W. I like our D to slow down Okie State and keep our offense on the field. Big W to start gives us motivation for the season. Mullen shows he's matured as a coach this year. Gets some quality Ws.

UIUCDog
08-20-2013, 11:09 AM
5-7 (2-6)

Perpetual Underachiever
08-20-2013, 11:11 AM
6-6 (3-5)

Alcorn, Troy, BG, UK, Arky, OM

Tough loss to Auburn on the Plains will be hard to get over.

LandArchDawg
08-20-2013, 11:26 AM
6-6 (3-5)

<tbody>
DATE
OPPONENT


8-31-13
Oklahoma State @Houston, TX L


9-7-13
ALCORN STATE W


9-14-13
at Auburn L


9-21-13
TROY W


10-5-13
LOUISIANA STATE L


10-12-13
BOWLING GREEN W


10-26-13
KENTUCKY W


11-2-13
at South Carolina L


11-9-13
at Texas A&M L


11-16-13
ALABAMA L


11-23-13
at Arkansas W


11-28-13
MISSISSIPPI (Thur.) W

</tbody>


6-6 (3-5)


Positives: we get the Arkansas road curse off our backs, we get the Golden Egg back in Starkville, and go bowling for an unprecedented 4th year in a row.

was21
08-20-2013, 11:58 AM
5-7

was21
08-20-2013, 12:03 PM
We'll lose to LSU the way we always do. No matter how close the game is, in the final analysis, they will simply line up in a tight formation and run run run the ball straight ahead down our throats.

gtowndawg
08-20-2013, 12:05 PM
nm

msudawg12
08-20-2013, 01:07 PM
7-5 (4-4)

Wizard
08-20-2013, 01:30 PM
nm

Hump4Hoops
08-20-2013, 01:33 PM
Who do you think our coach is, Houston Nutt?

NewTweederEndzoneDance
08-20-2013, 01:57 PM
7-5 (4-4) - beat Arky and Auburn and 1 of LSU or OM

Son_of_34
08-20-2013, 02:18 PM
Lose to the Pokes out of the gate, everybody gets down
Roll Alcorn
Soundly beat Auburn on the Plains
Beat Troy by 10
Beat LSU on a FG in OT
Soundly beat BG
Soundly beat UK
Lose soundly at SC
Lose soundly at aTm
Lose a 10 pt or so game vs Bama
Roll up Arkansas
Beat Ole Miss by 10, game never really in doubt

+1, but I think SC or aTm will be a closer game than those think, last time we played SC we fumbled that one away in the end.

rebflow
08-20-2013, 02:29 PM
L @OK State - Lose by 10, still cover. MSU's inexperienced secondary cannot stop OSU's uptempo attack.
W Alcorn St. - Its Alcorn St. Win by 23.
W @Auburn - Could go either way, but I give the dogs the edge. Nail biter for sure.
W Troy - Win, may be tied at half, but state runs away with it after halftime adjustments. Win by 14.
L LSU - Loss, probably by ten. The tigers have your number.
W Bowling Green - Don't know alot about BG, but I assume State wins by ten.
W Kentucky - Even though they seemingly made a good HC hire, not good enough to offset lack of talent. MSU wins by 15.
L @South Carolina - Russel gets sacked twice by Clowney. Lucky if he gets out of this game alive.
L @TAMU - State loses by 14 unless JFF is not playing, would consider it a tossup at that point.
L Alabama - State loses and loses bad.
W @Arkansas - State pulls out a winning drive with 2 mins left and kicks the FG. Wins by 3.
L Ole Miss - UM's uptempo attack and salty defense too much for Mullen and Co. Unless BO is injured, state loses by 14.

6-6 going bowling! 5-7 real possibility if Auburn is legit. 5 wins more likely than 7, but 6 is probable.

MadDawg
08-20-2013, 02:42 PM
wow. 14pt loss to the rebs at home? that's bold.

rebflow
08-20-2013, 02:52 PM
Well we did beat you guys by 17 last year. I am giving you guys the three points because it's in Starkville. OM returns 19 starters, should be much better. State lost both starting CBs to the NFL. While offense should be a bit better, it still lost three starting WRs. I think the D will experience a slight drop off. The 14 points is assuming that the new DC can turn things around on D. The argument that Ole Miss snuck up on teams last year is not relevant, because Dan and Co. had all season to figure us out. As far as who wanted it more, I agree that UM showed much more determination than state, but the "degree of caring" argument shouldn't account for 17 points.

LonesomeDog
08-20-2013, 02:54 PM
We have the talent to be in pretty much every ballgame except 'Bama. I know our snowballed meltdown at the end of last season still has a bitter taste in a lot of people's mouths but don't sell this team short, we will at least go to a bowl - that's 4yrs. in a row for those of you keeping score.

Now, we have the talent but I don't know if we have the mindset. Tyler Russell is saying all the right things in preseason interviews, but to me it kinda seems like he is just repeating what he has been told. I could be wrong, but we'll see if he truly grasps what is coming from his mouth.

Best cast scenario: 9-3 (Losses: OSU, A&M, Bama)
Worst cast scenario: 6-6 (Losses: OSU, Bama, SCAR, A&M, LSU and find a way to lose one of Auburn/Ark/OM
ETA - My guess: 8-4 (Losses: OSU, SCAR, A&M, Bama)

CookieMonster
08-20-2013, 03:07 PM
<tbody>
DATE
OPPONENT


8-31-13
W Oklahoma State @Houston, TX


9-7-13
W ALCORN STATE


9-14-13
L at Auburn


9-21-13
W TROY


10-5-13
L LOUISIANA STATE


10-12-13
W BOWLING GREEN


10-26-13
W KENTUCKY


11-2-13
W at South Carolina


11-9-13
W at Texas A&M


11-16-13
L ALABAMA


11-23-13
L at Arkansas


11-28-13
W MISSISSIPPI (Thur.)

</tbody>

Why not? I think we're better than last year. We could end up 4-8 and I wouldn't be shocked. The only sure prediction is that something will happen that no one saw coming.

Heawww
08-20-2013, 03:11 PM
You beat us by 45 in 2008 and were ranked coming into Starkville in 2009. Returned the whole team, yada yada. That turned out great for you.

Bottom line, anyone who's educated on the two teams and this rivalry, will not pick Ole Miss to beat MSU in Starkville this season. The only people who would are Ole Miss homers and talking heads who dig no deeper than the off-season emotion.

Heawww
08-20-2013, 03:13 PM
I thought about that, but I just went with my negative instincts.

rebflow
08-20-2013, 03:19 PM
That 2008 team lost two first rounders, Michael Oher and Peria Jerry. Also lost Mike Wallace to the third round, and Jamarca Sanford to the 7th. Sanford now starts for the Vikings at SS. Oher is a starting tackle for the Ravens. Wallace is one of the league's better starting WRs. Peria is a second string DT for Atlanta. So, we didn't really return the whole team, far from it. Also, DT Shackleford was a leader on our Defense and sat out 2009 due to injury. The 2012 team lost one player that contributed. Randall Mackey was good, but not irreplaceable like a LT or a DT.

MStateFan22
08-20-2013, 04:02 PM
5-7 (2-6) Being in the SECW is brutal. Not liking 2 toss ups (Arky and Auburn) being on the road.

DesotoCountyDawg
08-20-2013, 04:27 PM
6-6 (3-5) same W's and L's as DS.

MadDawg
08-20-2013, 04:33 PM
I'm not one of those to want to bet someone on the interwebs.....

but I do wish I knew you personally, cause I'd love a friendly wager on that line.

BigLeagueChew
08-20-2013, 05:36 PM
Not one State fan who wrote out the Wins & Losses for each game predicted that State would lose to Ole Miss.

I am curious how many people who did not write out each game prediction has State losing to Ole Miss.

To be fair, a few listed it as a toss-up game but no one outright said it. I might have to go back to last year's NAFOOM thread to see how many people listed OM as a loss for last year's game.

ckDOG
08-20-2013, 06:29 PM
Home team seems to be pretty successful in recent years.

TBone
08-20-2013, 06:45 PM
This is my prediction as well.

gymdawg
08-20-2013, 06:49 PM
following that "logic" shouldnt we have beaten you by at least 10 last yr? since "degree of caring" doesnt account for any points or very few.

mcdawg22
08-20-2013, 06:53 PM
6-6, Our secondary is going to have to grow up fast. I know we had two NFL starters on last years team that was terrible, but it could have been worse. Ok State, Auburn, Ark, LSU, and OM all hinge on how aggressively sound th DB's are. We need TO's in Ok State and LSU. We need no big plays against Ark, Aub, and OM. I can't pick OM so wins vs 3 NC, and wins against Ky, Aub, and OM. Sorry to be another Egg Bowl win, BLChew, but in Aug I can't do it. And many on nafoom couldn't either.

johnson86-1
08-20-2013, 07:07 PM
My gut tells me 5-6, my heart tells me 6-6. I can't predict a loss to OM this early in the year so 6-6 it is.
3-5 Sec wins Alcorn, Auburn, Troy, BG, KY, OM.
Auburn, AR, and OM will make or break this season.


You should listen to your heart since it at least got the number of games we should play correct.

was21
08-20-2013, 07:07 PM
At this uncertain time, most prognostications on this website and others are based "on paper." That includes the schedule, a gut feeling for who's here and who's gone, and a gut feeling for team chemistry. In other words, it's all pure conjecture. The bottom line is that both teams are on the bottom or close to it. The only thing that matters is going to a bowl game. Things go in cycles. The win/loss record between these two teams over the last 32 years (a generation) is 16-16.

57stratdawg
08-20-2013, 07:20 PM
A disappointing 6-6

HotMop
08-20-2013, 08:14 PM
(9-3)



<tbody>
DATE
OPPONENT


8-31-13
Oklahoma State @Houston, TX


9-7-13
ALCORN STATE


9-14-13
at Auburn


9-21-13
TROY


10-5-13
LOUISIANA STATE


10-12-13
BOWLING GREEN


10-26-13
KENTUCKY


11-2-13
at South Carolina


11-9-13
at Texas A&M


11-16-13
ALABAMA


11-23-13
at Arkansas


11-28-13
MISSISSIPPI (Thur.)

</tbody>

_________________________________________________
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Richard Shapley
richard@elysrestaurant.com
Phone: 601.605.6359
Fax: 601.605.6687
http://elysrestaurant.com (http://elysrestaurant.com/)

thatsbaseball
08-20-2013, 08:21 PM
Mine too. November`s gonna leave a mark.

UIUCDog
08-20-2013, 08:57 PM
...predictions for our season are? Just sayin'.

rebflow
08-20-2013, 09:01 PM
Look, I'm obviously a rebel and biased, but I did put you guys in a bowl game. That's better than some of the dogs on here predict. Who knows what happens, it is the Egg Bowl and State could very well win. But I wouldn't say 14 points is a huge stretch. Looking over the last ten years, I can think of one eggbowl that ended with a differential of ten points or less. That was Orgeron's team when Pegues returned a punt for a td in the fourth quarter. It's a prediction thread and this was my prediction. Of course I am gonna be wrong on a few. Both teams have talent, but for some of you to say that State obviously has much more talent than us, and the only reason you lost is that you didn't care is ridiculous. You were out schemed. It had nothing to do with who cared more.

karlchilders
08-20-2013, 09:06 PM
We are a Red Shirt Program.(NOW)



Wait till NEXT year!

DesotoCountyDawg
08-20-2013, 09:37 PM
I always predict a State win. Who cares?

Lettuce
08-20-2013, 09:38 PM
Fixt it......No Homer Here**

Ok St-W-Lets not over think this game. I like our matchups on defense enough to think we keep it close. Our offense will be WAY better than predicted.
Alcorn-W-D.Milton rushes for 185 and 3 TD's
Auburn-W-Defense shines.
Troy-W-Tyler and Fred connect for 2 td's
Lsu-W-Nick takes starting HB spot in the two tight set. Dak with the two tightends/two back stack...we shall call it "IT" formation...will romp. Not sure if it will be a backfield stack or split. But expect the two tight, early and often, here.
Bowling Green-W-Now ranked 20nd, We turn on the grinder and cut out the lights..
Kentucky-W-Now ranked 18th...see Bowling Green
South Carolina-W-We are now ranked 13th. Murlen finally seals the deal against SC. This becomes a grind it style game much like LSU. Neither team throwing it very well. I think Dak is the difference here, as he will be in the LSU win. Malcolm Johnson will take this mother 17er over.
Tex AM-L-We are now ranked 7th. Johnny Football is too much. He only loses 3 games and we arnt one of them. We control the clock better but at the end of the day our DB's get sucked in too much and allow JFF to beat us with play action long ball. Us and every other team will be rushing him harder this year. One on one matchups on the outside in the SEC=TD's.
Alabama-L-Ranked 12th... They beat us and every other team on their way to another championship.
Arkansas-W-Ranked 15th... we beat Arkansas the same way we have beaten the other SEC teams, RUNNING THE FOOTBALL.
Ole Miss-W-Ranked 11th...Simply put, we are deeper and more skilled @ every position. I sit and look at both rosters, at this point, and wonder how so many people have this as a toss up. Nothing against Tyler but Dak may be playing at a 50/50 split at this point.
10-2 Regular Season
Sugar Bowl #7 Mississippi State Vs #6 Wisconsin

dawgstudent
08-20-2013, 09:40 PM
Last year, I picked State to win which I think most thought was a safe pick.

This year, I think it's a tougher pick but with the game in Starkville - State wins. If the game was in Oxford, I probably would have picked Ole Miss if you wanted me to be truthful.

Heawww
08-20-2013, 09:49 PM
You were out schemed.

In case you hadn't noticed, we replaced the guy that got victimized in that game. That's probably a 10-14 point swing. I still think Ole Miss would have won even if Collins was calling the game instead of Wilson. It was simply your time.

Your guys wanted the game more than ours. But I, and most people, still felt like we were the better team, but your effort and being at home took it home for you. And I feel the same way about this year's team, except it's in Starkville and we will be ready to play that game. Logic says we win in that situation.

Heawww
08-20-2013, 09:52 PM
You could see that game coming from a mile away last November. It was eerily similar to us in 2009. Picking us to win this year is MUCH safer than picking us last year up there.

Not sure how some of you form your opinions, but I guess they are YOUR opinions not mine.

sldrboy2002
08-20-2013, 10:16 PM
Gut feeling 4-8, satisfied at 6-6, happy with 7-5, ecstatic with anything at 8-4 or higher.

DawgatAuburn
08-20-2013, 10:19 PM
If I were to read this enough, I could start to believe it.

dawgstudent
08-20-2013, 10:52 PM
When you say last november, are you saying you would have picked State to lose to Ole Miss in August 2012?

I think most saw a decent shot of us losing to Ole Miss even though we didn't want it to happen after the A&M game.

DerHntr
08-20-2013, 11:04 PM
5-7

codeDawg
08-20-2013, 11:15 PM
Anyone that doesn't pick us 7-5 is a pansy.

This is one of the deepest MSU teams in MSU history. We went 8-4 in regulation last year. We trade TN for USCe, and pick up a tough opener, but we also get UM at home, and history and talent are on our side there.

Neither Arky or AU are talented enough to make a first year coach good enough to beat us this year.

I think we are 8-4 again, but 7-4 should be the bottom unless you just love to hate yourself.

Palos verdes
08-20-2013, 11:28 PM
7-5 We are tough, blue collar, and pissed off.

SignalToNoise
08-20-2013, 11:49 PM
Well, something unbelievable happens every year. Why can't it be this in 2013?

NCDawg
08-21-2013, 12:07 AM
And mine.

DesotoCountyDawg
08-21-2013, 02:49 AM
No kidding.

coach66
08-21-2013, 08:48 AM
scheduleku

IBleedMaroonDawg
08-21-2013, 09:10 AM
It'll never happen.

Signed - MSU 2013 Baseball Team

Duke Silver
08-21-2013, 09:12 AM
5-7, beat 3 ooc, plus UK and Ole Miss

Hump4Hoops
08-21-2013, 09:21 AM
Now ranked 20nd.

fishwater99
08-21-2013, 09:31 AM
5-7 (2-6)

Mullen just can't get it done at MSU and he can beat a Top 20 team once again...

Predestined
08-21-2013, 09:45 AM
Screw Max Howell, Tim Brando, Doug Colson, Bo Bounds, ESPN, FOX, Athlon, The SEC Media The SEC Coaches, USA Today, Danny Sheridan, Paul Finbaum, The Big 12/10/8, each and every bear/rebel/shark in the universe, known and unknown, whether in a zoo, aquarium, wild or Oxford, LeeAnn Touhy, Sandra Bullock, Houston Nutt, Mke Slive, Rev Freeze, the city an township of Stillwater, and anyone else who takes this team lightly. WE ARE GOING TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hail State!

Someone find me my meds.

DawgsOnTheWing
08-21-2013, 10:26 AM
7-5 (4-4)

W's: ASU, Troy, LSU, BGU, KY, UPig, OM

biscuit
08-21-2013, 10:46 AM
7-5 maybe 8-4

Bud
08-21-2013, 10:47 AM
Last year Mississippi beat three nobodies in OOC,

Beat Arkansas on a last second field goal, was losing to Auburn in the third quarter, until Auburn imploded, and caught State in the perfect storm (although it was tied at the half).

And now Mississippi is going to win 7 to 9 games and beat State on their field. Well kiss my bulldog ass.

rebflow
08-21-2013, 10:48 AM
I admire the optimism lettuce. I honestly hope we're both 11-0 going into Starkville. And I really hope you guys do better. But let's be honest, y'all were more talented at every position? Your WRs were better than ours? QBs are a push, two different systems and two completely different skill sets. RB, I'd say push but just for argument sake I'll give you a slight edge on that one. TE, you guys were far better here. OL, tough to say, gabe was good but so was Morris, our tackles were a bit more solid, but your interior was probably a bit better. Again, completely different schemes. Push. DEs, I think ours were better, maybe it was scheme, but ours just seemed more disruptive. No knock on Autry, like most jucos, his second year should be good. DT, I'll say push, talent wise anyways, both units were solid but not world beaters. LB, we struggled early against the run so you win here, but not by much. You had better cb's for sure, safeties were young for both teams. Ours probably made more plays, but neither team was excellent here. Advantage ole miss. Honestly though, you think your receivers were better? Please explain.

BigLeagueChew
08-21-2013, 11:13 AM
A ridiculous schedule for you guys.

Definite losses: OSU (though I really hope you beat them), LSU, Ala, A&M, USC
Definite Wins: Alcorn State, Kentucky, Troy, BGSU (I think one of those last 2 teams will play y'all uncomfortably close)
Toss-ups: Arkansas (most likely win), Auburn (most likely loss), Ole Miss

I have y'all winning 2 of 3 toss-ups.

Best case: 9-3 (maybe 10-2 depending on JFF's status)
Worst case (Houston Nutt-style implosion): 3-9
Average those out and you get 6-6

What sucks is that if you trade out OSU and USC for CUSA school and Mizzou on the road, you're looking at an easy 8-4 record.


<tbody>
DATE
OPPONENT


8-31-13
Oklahoma State @Houston, TX L



9-7-13
ALCORN STATE W



9-14-13
at Auburn L



9-21-13
TROY W



10-5-13
LOUISIANA STATE L



10-12-13
BOWLING GREEN W



10-26-13
KENTUCKY W



11-2-13
at South Carolina L



11-9-13
at Texas A&M L



11-16-13
ALABAMA L



11-23-13
at Arkansas W



11-28-13
MISSISSIPPI (Thur.) W


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Heawww
08-21-2013, 12:00 PM
When you say last november, are you saying you would have picked State to lose to Ole Miss in August 2012?

Yes. I saw uncanny similarities between them in Freeze's first year and us in Mullen's first year. I had hoped they wouldn't have the talent to match up with us, but I knew that wasn't the case. We all knew they'd be fired up with a chip on their shoulder. Of course I didn't want this to happen, but I don't see how you could deny it. Yes, we were the better team on paper, but our margin of error was very slim in that game from the beginning, and we didn't take advantage when we had chances.

As the season wore on, it became more apparent. I will admit that. Especially when our defense proved very vulnerable against the spread. A couple of posts by my alter egos proves this (last one was from August):

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showthread.php?97242-This-team-has-given-me-no-reason-to-expect-anything-but-a-9-3-finish&highlight=railin+jemmye


100% agree. Actually, to me, Arkansas is a must win......


....if we lose that at home, that's disappointing. But I don't think we will, I think we beat them handily.

Ole Miss is spooky just because we are playing them up there and most likely they are playing for pride, bowl eligibility and simply put, to beat our ass. Those guys, especially the 2010 and 2011 recruiting classes, want a piece of that dawg meat for sure. While it would suck royally to lose that game, I'm not calling it a disappointment like losing to Arkansas would be.



http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showthread.php?97251-How-awesome-is-it-the-Bears-bowl-hopes-come-down-to-the-Egg-Bowl&p=795097#post795097


They'll probably be even more motivated......


not saying that I'm scared of them, but if you asked me if a loss to them was out of the realm of possibility, I'd say no. In Oxford, against a hated rival, harboring 3 years of pent up anger, playing for bowl eligibility......while it will be physically and emotionally impossible for our team to play with that type of spark due to knowing we've beaten them the past 3 years and a record of 8-3 with a feeling of superiority. Ripe situation for an upset.

What's not to love?

Edited: Also against an offense similar to the two that gashed us the most this year (Troy, TAM)?



http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showthread.php?89523-We-will-go-6-6&highlight=spanky


We will go 6-6...


Fact: Troy is a classic MSU trap game. We WILL be flat for this game. It will be a matter of out-talenting them. If we lose to Auburn, we will have to deal with a sense of dejection as well. I look for a 10-14 point win maximum. Any mistakes and we are in for a world of hurt.

You are a clueless homer if you believe MSU going to Kentucky and Ole Miss are two sure fire wins. I would love to think that things have changed under Mullen, and I personally think they have, but I will never pick MSU to go better than 6-6 until I've seen us do it a few years in a row.




Damn, looking back, that's some hardcore accuracy on my part regarding last season.

Remember, 8-4 (5-3) this year, bitches.

Hump4Hoops
08-21-2013, 01:59 PM
And the QB position is not a push. If I were sitting in a dunking booth, I'd be more afraid he would hit me with the ball than hit the target and dunk me. Plus he as a busted wing.

He was a perfect fit for Freeze's offense and offensive personnel last year, but he's not a stellar talent.

rebflow
08-21-2013, 05:26 PM
"not a stellar talent", neither is Tyler. Bo is 100% now, and even if he isn't 100%, he wasn't last year either but still fared pretty well. He is gonna throw more picks than Tyler, but he is also gonna put up more all purpose yards and TDs. If its not a push, you have to give the edge to Bo, like most neutral reporters have done in there SEC QB rankings.

DesotoCountyDawg
08-21-2013, 05:33 PM
No Bo isn't 100%. Far from it.

patdog
08-21-2013, 05:40 PM
Last year, I picked State to win which I think most thought was a safe pick.
Picking the road team in the Egg Bowl is NEVER a safe pick. Historically, even a significant favorite only wins about half the time on the road in this series.

DocHolliday
08-21-2013, 05:50 PM
[QUOTE=Bud;911636]Last year Mississippi beat three nobodies in OOC,

Beat Arkansas on a last second field goal, was losing to Auburn in the third quarter, until Auburn imploded, and caught State in the perfect storm (although it was tied at the half).

And now Mississippi is going to win 7 to 9 games and beat State on their field. Well kiss my bulldog ass.[/QUOTE

This is spot on. Some of those guys need to back away from the kool aid. I say we go 6-6 this year with one of those W's being Bucky's Bears.

patdog
08-21-2013, 05:56 PM
I doubt that any of us, Bears or Dawgs, have much of a clue how healthy Wallace really is. I'm going on the assumption he's at least as healthy as he was the second half of last year until I see otherwise.

msufandan
08-21-2013, 09:16 PM
6-6 (3-5) Losses to OKSt, Auburn, LSU, South Carolina, A&M, Bama.

HamilReb
08-21-2013, 10:56 PM
What percent would you say he is?

DesotoCountyDawg
08-21-2013, 11:35 PM
I don't know but he has issues throwing.

bulldogbaja
08-22-2013, 09:24 AM
I think Arkansas is going to be turrible



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DATE
OPPONENT


8-31-13
Oklahoma State @Houston, TX LOSS 0-1


9-7-13
ALCORN STATE WIN 1-1


9-14-13
at Auburn WIN 1-1


9-21-13
TROY WIN 1-1


10-5-13
LOUISIANA STATE LOSS 3-2


10-12-13
BOWLING GREEN WIN 4-2


10-26-13
KENTUCKY WIN 5-2


11-2-13
at South Carolina WIN 6-2


11-9-13
at Texas A&M LOSS 6-3


11-16-13
ALABAMA LOSS 6-4


11-23-13
at Arkansas WIN 7-4


11-28-13
MISSISSIPPI (Thur.) WIN 8-4

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bulldogbaja
08-22-2013, 09:36 AM
Honest question: Do you guys really see Wallace as the savior of your program? I was really surprised to start looking around this summer and seeing OM fans fired up about the QB position. Is this just a case of "what have you done for me lately?" Wallace was not a good QB at the beginning of the season; I recall Wallace being yanked several time to be replaced by Brunetti or Mackey. He was "mr. interception," remember? I do realize he dominated the egg bowl, along with some of your very talented receivers.

rebflow
08-22-2013, 10:48 AM
Savior is a strong word. I would say that Bo is what we need to be competitive. He's probably a middle of the pack QB like Russell. But he gives us a true dual threat QB that fits our offensive scheme well.

Bo struggled early in the season, but came on strong in the second half. Remember, the guy was a sophomore straight out of JUCO learning a new system. He showed improvement late in the season and kept us in some games against tough opponents.

I'll say this, I would rather have a Soph QB start out slow and end strong, all the while being hurt, rather than a RS Junior start strong and end with 1 td 2 ints in the eggbowl, and 4 ints in a bowl loss. That's right, 4.

We don't think that Bo is a savior, but we do think he has the mentality and the weapons around him to excel in this league.

And Desoto, what issues does Bo have throwing? He didn't have any issue throwing 5 TDs against your two NFL caliber corners. By all accounts, he is healthier now than he was then.

ChroamOneHundred
08-22-2013, 05:07 PM
Games in order of probability of winning:


Alcorn St.
Troy
Kentucky
Bowling Green
Ole Miss
@Arkansas
@Auburn
OSU
----------- Ls below this line
LSU
@aTm
Alabama
@S. Carolina


This is pretty optimistic place to put the line, so I have to say that my head is thinking it could drift up 2, 3 spots pretty easy...injury, breakout player for Arkansas , Auburn fully transitioned to their new (old) coach early, etc. I don't see losing to OM at home right now, so them and above are "shockers" to me.

FQDawg
08-22-2013, 05:17 PM
If we do better than that, I'll be happy. Well, not really, but I'm not expecting much this year.

TheStateUofMS
08-23-2013, 04:53 AM
8-4 is my prediction. We could be as high as 10-2 as low as 6-6.

boss dawg
08-28-2013, 06:06 PM
6-6 (3-5)
L's to Ok st, LSU, South Carolina, A&M, Bama,Ole Miss
W's over Alcorn, Auburn, Troy, Bowling Green, Kentucky, Arkansas.