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    I Played Football for State from '09 - '13. Ask Me Anything.

    Some requested I start a thread for this so I figured I'd give it a whirl since I'm on my lunch break. Football or other, ask me anything.


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    Did you ever roll your eyes when Mullen would call a fake punt at the most inopportune time?
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    What really went down ? Living in Columbus, I've heard rumors of the shit he tried to pull with you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by klong-dog View Post
    What really went down ? Living in Columbus, I've heard rumors of the shit he tried to pull with you.
    Mullen was never really a fan of me. Technically I was a Croom recruit but counted towards Mullen's '09 class (remember I greyshirted). Mullen tried to cut me before I even started. In my first ever one-on-one meeting with him he tells me "You better good because I don't want you here. You're taking the slot of a potential 5 star I could sign". Nothing like a great first impression.

    I've had a few previous employees at State tell me he tried to get me to quit multiple times early on. His plan was to let me play in 2011 then sign someone to take my spot. I ended up having a good year in 2011. He signed Bell (who is a good friend of mine). I ended up having an even better year in 2012. So I guess he saw the best time to do this was my senior year. In camp prior to the 2013 season, he starts putting Bell in with the 1's on punt team. I ask Mullen after practice about it and he says "The best player will play. You know that. Bell has better numbers than you in practice". So I go and request these numbers and they have Bell beating me by one yard. Each week they'd grade our punts and I'd usually lose by a half a yard or one yard. Not sure the validity of these numbers but that was the rationale behind it. I knew at that point I was up against a battle I'd never win. It was tough on me but even tougher on my parents.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede39 View Post
    "You better good because I don't want you here. You're taking the slot of a potential 5 star I could sign".
    Ha, ha, ha. Mullen signing a 5*. You're cracking me up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede39 View Post
    Mullen was never really a fan of me. Technically I was a Croom recruit but counted towards Mullen's '09 class (remember I greyshirted). Mullen tried to cut me before I even started. In my first ever one-on-one meeting with him he tells me "You better good because I don't want you here. You're taking the slot of a potential 5 star I could sign". Nothing like a great first impression.

    I've had a few previous employees at State tell me he tried to get me to quit multiple times early on. His plan was to let me play in 2011 then sign someone to take my spot. I ended up having a good year in 2011. He signed Bell (who is a good friend of mine). I ended up having an even better year in 2012. So I guess he saw the best time to do this was my senior year. In camp prior to the 2013 season, he starts putting Bell in with the 1's on punt team. I ask Mullen after practice about it and he says "The best player will play. You know that. Bell has better numbers than you in practice". So I go and request these numbers and they have Bell beating me by one yard. Each week they'd grade our punts and I'd usually lose by a half a yard or one yard. Not sure the validity of these numbers but that was the rationale behind it. I knew at that point I was up against a battle I'd never win. It was tough on me but even tougher on my parents.
    Did you see Mullen's incident with Duncan McKenzie's son that prompted him to say screw it and leave the program? What happened?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dudehead View Post
    Did you see Mullen's incident with Duncan McKenzie's son that prompted him to say screw it and leave the program? What happened?
    Oh boy. Here we go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dudehead View Post
    Did you see Mullen's incident with Duncan McKenzie's son that prompted him to say screw it and leave the program? What happened?
    I didn't witness the incident but everyone loved that guy. Was sad to see him go. No idea what happened.


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    That story sounds familiar. Had a conversation with another former player that was labeled one of Jackieís guys by Croom. Was benched his sr season because of it. Iím sure it happens all the time. Doesnít make it any less shitty for a coach to do that just because youíre not one of his guys.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede39 View Post
    Mullen was never really a fan of me. Technically I was a Croom recruit but counted towards Mullen's '09 class (remember I greyshirted). Mullen tried to cut me before I even started. In my first ever one-on-one meeting with him he tells me "You better good because I don't want you here. You're taking the slot of a potential 5 star I could sign". Nothing like a great first impression.

    I've had a few previous employees at State tell me he tried to get me to quit multiple times early on. His plan was to let me play in 2011 then sign someone to take my spot. I ended up having a good year in 2011. He signed Bell (who is a good friend of mine). I ended up having an even better year in 2012. So I guess he saw the best time to do this was my senior year. In camp prior to the 2013 season, he starts putting Bell in with the 1's on punt team. I ask Mullen after practice about it and he says "The best player will play. You know that. Bell has better numbers than you in practice". So I go and request these numbers and they have Bell beating me by one yard. Each week they'd grade our punts and I'd usually lose by a half a yard or one yard. Not sure the validity of these numbers but that was the rationale behind it. I knew at that point I was up against a battle I'd never win. It was tough on me but even tougher on my parents.
    Smh good grief what a douche. A potential 5 Star? Hahahaha heís in denial about his own recruiting ability. You were a better, more consistent punter than Devon Bell during your time here. Iíll argue anyone who says otherwise whether you were on here or not. I know yíall are friends and donít want to get into the you vs him talk but that had to be said. Thanks for confirming he was the giant douche I thought he was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede39 View Post
    Mullen was never really a fan of me. Technically I was a Croom recruit but counted towards Mullen's '09 class (remember I greyshirted). Mullen tried to cut me before I even started. In my first ever one-on-one meeting with him he tells me "You better good because I don't want you here. You're taking the slot of a potential 5 star I could sign". Nothing like a great first impression.

    I've had a few previous employees at State tell me he tried to get me to quit multiple times early on. His plan was to let me play in 2011 then sign someone to take my spot. I ended up having a good year in 2011. He signed Bell (who is a good friend of mine). I ended up having an even better year in 2012. So I guess he saw the best time to do this was my senior year. In camp prior to the 2013 season, he starts putting Bell in with the 1's on punt team. I ask Mullen after practice about it and he says "The best player will play. You know that. Bell has better numbers than you in practice". So I go and request these numbers and they have Bell beating me by one yard. Each week they'd grade our punts and I'd usually lose by a half a yard or one yard. Not sure the validity of these numbers but that was the rationale behind it. I knew at that point I was up against a battle I'd never win. It was tough on me but even tougher on my parents.
    More than likely the same formula used to grade Brandon Holloway's blocking assignments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede39 View Post
    Mullen was never really a fan of me. Technically I was a Croom recruit but counted towards Mullen's '09 class (remember I greyshirted). Mullen tried to cut me before I even started. In my first ever one-on-one meeting with him he tells me "You better good because I don't want you here. You're taking the slot of a potential 5 star I could sign". Nothing like a great first impression.

    Wish you would have told that hunchbacked Uncle Eddie clone something to the effect....." I was recruited and signed by an SEC school......Where the 17 is Ursina College....bitch?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by HumpDawgy View Post
    Wish you would have told that hunchbacked Uncle Eddie clone something to the effect....." I was recruited and signed by an SEC school......Where the 17 is Ursina College....bitch?"
    This made me laugh lol.


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    Ha! For sure. His reasoning around most of those was that our future opponents would see it on film and have to prepare for it in their game plan. He called a fake punt on my first collegiate start against Memphis.


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    I'm thinking more and more that Scott Stricklin did us a favor.

    But he still deserves to be the downvote.


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    What bowl gave the best swag??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor of Little London View Post
    What bowl gave the best swag??
    Believe it or not, the Music City bowl had some pretty nice swag. That was my favorite bowl. Mainly because I dabble in music though.


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    Yeah, you play with my boy Connerly Dale don't you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by archdog View Post
    Yeah, you play with my boy Connerly Dale don't you?
    Sure do. We've been playing together for almost 12 years now. Great guy.


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    Two, was Hev as bad a recruiter as we say

    He is and was Mullen as bad a judge and developer of QB talent as Iíve been told privately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coach66 View Post
    He is and was Mullen as bad a judge and developer of QB talent as I’ve been told privately?
    Hev could be funny at times with recruits but I think people easily saw through that. I just tried to stay away from him.

    I can't speak much on Mullen in that regard. Usually if you're one of his favorites, you would excel.


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    Nothing says top notch recruiter quite like a former player stating ďI just tried to stay away from him.Ē

    Thatís hilarious yet sad at the same time


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    Was Mullen's job seeking palpable among the players, especially in the better years (2010, 2012)?

    Was there anyone on the staff, based on how they interacted with you and the other players, who you thought was total dead weight?


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    Quote Originally Posted by UpTheMiddlex3Punt View Post
    Was Mullen's job seeking palpable among the players, especially in the better years (2010, 2012)?

    Was there anyone on the staff, based on how they interacted with you and the other players, who you thought was total dead weight?
    Looking back on it, I'd say so. What stuck out to me was this look that Mullen had in the 2012 Egg Bowl. We were down but had a chance to come back. He'd totally checked out. I'll never forget that. So that could've easily been him already thinking about where he wants to go next.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede39 View Post
    Looking back on it, I'd say so. What stuck out to me was this look that Mullen had in the 2012 Egg Bowl. We were down but had a chance to come back. He'd totally checked out. I'll never forget that. So that could've easily been him already thinking about where he wants to go next.
    What a prick. It was a pretty popular speculation amongst fans that Mullen had checked out long before he left. There's no telling where we could've gone had Mullen put his ego aside and actually tried (for instance, at the end of the '14 season). I just wonder if he was burned out or if he thought he was just "too good" for Starkville.


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    I wondered about that game. Dak sits the bench while russell throws like 3 picks in the 1st half


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    What did the team think of Mullen? Did they see him as kinda goofy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamoan View Post
    What did the team think of Mullen? Did they see him as kinda goofy?
    Mullen's style was to coach and motivate through fear. Unless you were a favorite, you were essentially a business unit. At least that's what you felt like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede39 View Post
    Mullen's style was to coach and motivate through fear. Unless you were a favorite, you were essentially a business unit. At least that's what you felt like.
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    A coach that plays players based on relationships rather than merit at THE WORST. He will probably be Holloway's best man in his wedding.**


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    Through fear.. wow.. and now look at what Rick court is about to get fired for.. SMH!


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    How was the team able to overcome a yankee trying to fit into the south via foot swag? Was that something he came with or did he develop that idea for recruiting? Itís lame AF regardless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lettuce View Post
    How was the team able to overcome a yankee trying to fit into the south via foot swag? Was that something he came with or did he develop that idea for recruiting? It’s lame AF regardless.
    I can only speak for my special teams group on this one. We kind of picked up early on that he had an inflated ego and the whole shoe thing was nothing more to inflate that.


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    Would you be frustrated if you were a punter, basically leading the nation in Net Punting, consistently driving the ball 45 yards with 5 seconds of hang time, never booming 60+ yarders, but never shanking 15 yarders, and a coach puts in your backup bc he had a “better week of practice” and has the leg for the occasional 65 yard punt, but also consistently shanks punts for 20 yards...?

    Personally, I take the guaranteed 45 yarder every time over the risk of the alternative. But I didn’t invent football like the coach for the scenario I described.

    I’ve been pissed about a scenario like this for 5 years. Wondering if you would feel the same. I’ll hang up and listen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest4Moore View Post
    Would you be frustrated if you were a punter, basically leading the nation in Net Punting, consistently driving the ball 45 yards with 5 seconds of hang time, never booming 60+ yarders, but never shanking 15 yarders, and a coach puts in your backup bc he had a “better week of practice” and has the leg for the occasional 65 yard punt, but also consistently shanks punts for 20 yards...?

    Personally, I take the guaranteed 45 yarder every time over the risk of the alternative. But I didn’t invent football like the coach for the scenario I described.

    I’ve been pissed about a scenario like this for 5 years. Wondering if you would feel the same. I’ll hang up and listen.
    See my response to klong-dog's post. But yes. One of the most frustrating things I've dealt with.


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    Did you and/or your teammates have the sense that Mullen was looking for new jobs during the season, particularly in 2010 and 2012? And if so, did that seem to impact preparation for games late in the season?


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    Did you really think this through? Knowing you're about to open up the flood gates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgzilla View Post
    Did you and/or your teammates have the sense that Mullen was looking for new jobs during the season, particularly in 2010 and 2012? And if so, did that seem to impact preparation for games late in the season?
    Sort of. It seemed more apparent on the game field.


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    Are you sorry you weren't born three years earlier so you might have had opportunity to punt from the 30 at Athens GA?
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