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    Future of college football with declining student interest..............

    There was a time not so long ago where regardless of the team's record, the student section was packed and students formed long lines to get in prior to the game. The last 2-3 years the student section has rarely been full and even when it is they end up leaving early. They just do not seem very passionate about the sport of football.

    We can all come up with reasons why this is occurring but how will this impact college football in 10, 20, 30 years when these same students that don't care about football now become alumni and don't join the Bulldog Club or return to campus for games?

    Don't get me wrong, I am not singling out the attendance of students because our current alumni have sucked too. I am talking with regards to future fund raising and general interest in the sport.


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    The student section is fine with a decent opponent when its not 110 degrees outside


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    Social Media......attention spans of a gnat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AROB44 View Post
    Social Media......attention spans of a gnat...
    Yep, itís the takeover of social media. All most students want to do is be on a social media platform while in the stadium. Eventually they realize they arenít paying attention to the game and arenít drinking, so they can do game related social media activities elsewhere. Itís a significant change to the game day experience compared to when many of us went to MSU football games as students. I went to watch the game, period. That just isnít the case for most students any longer.


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    They say youth participation rates are down too, although I'm not sure that is entirely accurate. Not sure if that is taking into account flag football. Either way I don't see any of this as a huge issue.

    The problem is TV and people getting lazier, with more options. It's not money, because people are buying tickets and simply not going, which in turn explains why prices keep increasing while attendance decreases.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CoastDawg18 View Post
    Yep, it’s the takeover of social media. All most students want to do is be on a social media platform while in the stadium. Eventually they realize they aren’t paying attention to the game and aren’t drinking, so they can do game related social media activities elsewhere. It’s a significant change to the game day experience compared to when many of us went to MSU football games as students. I went to watch the game, period. That just isn’t the case for most students any longer.
    That behavior isn't restricted to just students. I hate it when people blame everything on young people. Who raised them?


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    Their iPads


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    Quote Originally Posted by AROB44 View Post
    Social Media......attention spans of a gnat...
    Gotta go get they drank on in cooler environments, too.


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    Itís more of a society shift than a football specific problem. Iíve gone to many baseball games lately and half of the kids I see in the stands are glued to a phone with headphones on, inside the stadium. 10 year old me couldnít have fathomed that. Hell, half of the adults are too busy scrolling feeds to even know the score. For whatever reason society cares more about likes/followers now than living in the real world.

    A lot of people have forgotten how to be ďboredĒ and will pull out that phone and start scrolling as a mindless instinct.


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    Like PBRME said, their iPads. Parents have gotten exponentially lazier thanks to technology. It's much easier to pacify a whiney kid by sticking a phone in their lap with some flashy videos instead of taking them out and throwing a football with them.


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    I can assure you, if I could've 17ed around on my iphone instead of watch the end of the Sherrill and beginning of the Crooms eras, I certainly would've.

    I can further assure you during that same era, the student section was FAR from packed, especially by halftime.


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    I graduated in 2016 so I can maybe provide some context. The idea that it is social media and students just want to sit on their phones is not true. I was a student from 2012-2015 seasons and we packed it out for a lot of games, and then some games looked pathetic. The reality is, if its not a quality oponent or if the weather is bad, they just stay at home. There really isn't some crazy factor preventing them from going. Also, they aren't as financially invested as boosters or someone who came in from out of town. When I was a student, season tickets were only $50 (I believe they have increased since then). So if theres an option to sit in their dorm, apartment, or fraternity house in the AC or bake in the 95 degree sun, they don't feel out as much money as someone like myself who paid for season tickets. It is what it is. And then when we play a big time opponent when the weather is good or even if its a night game in September, they'll show up. That's how it was while I was there. When we played Auburn, TAMU, and UF last year, they showed up.


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    They'll show up for the big games. But the days of having a full house for random games (We know K-State is typically pretty good but the average student doesn't really know that) and games with terrible weather are over. That's not exclusive to students, though. There were a ton of empty seats on Saturday other than the student section.


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    Students being fickle and leaving early is nothing new. Back in the 80-90ís you had the same situation. First of all, no one should be pressured to go to a game or feel compelled to leave at a time of someone elseís choosing. I sat on the 50 yard line this week and left at halftime to sit at the top of the stadium because thatís where my kid want to venture off to. Iím sure the busybodies sitting at the fifty thought I was skipping out. Just my opinion, do your part, but leave others to their own decisions. Frankly, itís none of anyones business where I choose to spend my time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BossDawg78 View Post
    Like PBRME said, their iPads. Parents have gotten exponentially lazier thanks to technology. It's much easier to pacify a whiney kid by sticking a phone in their lap with some flashy videos instead of taking them out and throwing a football with them.
    Yea, this is not true by any measure. Parents have probably gotten worse at parenting, but it's because they are misguided. Parents put in way more time parenting now than previous generations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggin Out Yo Wife View Post
    That behavior isn't restricted to just students. I hate it when people blame everything on young people. Who raised them?
    Absolutely not. The thread topic is about students, hence the wording in my post. Plenty of adults do the same thing at games, and as you eluded they stick a tablet or phone in their kids hands at any chance they get.


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    I pull out the phone and scroll but it's more of a mechanism for this introvert to not talk to people especially when I don't know folks.

    (I at least do my best not to do that when in conversation with friends.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnson86-1 View Post
    Yea, this is not true by any measure. Parents have probably gotten worse at parenting, but it's because they are misguided. Parents put in way more time parenting now than previous generations.
    Ok


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    Quote Originally Posted by dorndawg View Post
    ... I can further assure you during that same era, the student section was FAR from packed, especially by halftime.
    I am not sure if it is still the case, but I am convinced that somebody was out before the games sprinkling itching powder, fiberglass insulation fines, and poison sumac dust on the endzone bleachers in the early 00's. I left at halftime to go paint my ass with calamine lotion.


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    I love watching and keeping up with other games on my phone while attending games (when my signal is good enough)

    You may see me looking down at my phone in the stands, but the truth is a I'm a BIGGER sports fan than you because I got multiple games going at one time.

    If you are a real sports fan why wouldn't you take advantage of technology? Why isn't the OP a real football fan? Why is the OP spending so much time looking at other fans instead of the field and his ESPN app on his phone?....it sounds like the OP isn't really a super fan
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    Need games to be played at night. Just tell TV and the SEC to shove their money and schedule games at 7 PM. ***

    And while we are scheduling can we get back to alternating away and home games like the old days?***

    And also, can we hire Emory Bellard back? I miss the Veer Attack.***


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    The more predictable the outcome, the less likely people are to attend in my opinion. And that is also correlated to time of game and temperature.


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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheaddawg View Post
    I love watching and keeping up with other games on my phone while attending games (when my signal is good enough)

    You may see me looking down at my phone in the stands, but the truth is a
    I'm a BIGGER sports fan than you because I got multiple going at one time.

    If you are a real sports fan why wouldn't you take advantage of technology? Why isn't the OP a real football fan?
    That's like leaving your wife in the bed when she is in the mood while you go to the bathroom for a little tugger with your favorite porn site.... Not that I don't partake on most nights myself, but there are only 12-13 days a year when it's game time and I am putting the phone down for some live action....

    Call me old fashioned, wait don't.. have your wife call me instead.*


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    Just like basketball attendance declining I think youíre finally beginning to see the effect of the SEC network and all games being on TV. I would much rather sit at my house and set up multiple TVs and watch multiple game

    A LSU buddy of mine didnít get season tickets this year for the first time in about 10 years.... attendance is about to be a serious problem nationwide in the next 5-10 years


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLee'sSocks View Post
    there are only 12-13 days a year
    What a Loser


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison Swinger View Post
    What a Loser
    ^^underrated username^^


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    Itís not just students and itís not just football. Sports attendance is declining nationwide. Saturday was a perfect storm for poor attendance. 100 degree heat index, sandwich game between home opener vs an in-state school & the SEC opener.


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    Sort of like the tipping point has about been reached

    Let's pay everybody.

    No Loyalty. Many of them don't really care about MSU (or their college)

    Portal me out of here.
    Jack may be gone, but he is "EVER PRESENT"


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLee'sSocks View Post
    That's like leaving your wife in the bed when she is in the mood while you go to the bathroom for a little tugger with your favorite porn site.... Not that I don't partake on most nights myself, but there are only 12-13 days a year when it's game time and I am putting the phone down for some live action....

    Call me old fashioned, wait don't.. have your wife call me instead.*
    Guess Joe Lee's socks have never been lying on the floor during a three-way. I'm sorry man, that's a shame. It's something everyone should try out.

    As for my wife, well she's banging your mom right now. I'm about to go join in.*

    Enjoy your inability to multitask


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison Swinger View Post
    What a Loser
    The limited number of games makes each one count.... but yes, it's very disappointing.

    Before we had kids, Mrs Socks and I had MLB season tickets, went to football games, caught a few hockey and basketball games, and even went to some road games... 100+ a year I bet.

    There was a point where I even tried to talk her into going in with a group for a privacy box, but she wasn't ever comfortable with the people that we knew that were interested and definitely wasn't interested in finding some random group on the internet.. I guess you don't have any problems with that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheaddawg View Post
    Guess Joe Lee's socks have never been lying on the floor during a three-way. I'm sorry man, that's a shame. It's something everyone should try out.

    As for my wife, well she's banging your mom right now. I'm about to go join in.*

    Enjoy your inability to multitask
    Jokes on you pal... My mom has an infestation of crabs that will make you swear they're chiggers on steroids. 3 times she has given me to me... Dad warned me, but I never listen.


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    I do think a night game makes a difference. It did for Auburn's student section against Kent State.

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    Biggest issue this weekend was the sandwich game of three home games. Frat and Sorority rows were dead and the parking lots half empty. I know a couple students from Desoto drove home. Then the heat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLee'sSocks View Post
    Jokes on you pal... My mom has an infestation of crabs that will make you swear they're chiggers on steroids. 3 times she has given me to me... Dad warned me, but I never listen.
    Doesn't bother me. Who do you think gave them to your mom.

    I'm like Johnny crab apple seed


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLee'sSocks View Post
    Jokes on you pal... My mom has an infestation of crabs that will make you swear they're chiggers on steroids. 3 times she has given me to me... Dad warned me, but I never listen.
    He warned me too, didn't listen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheaddawg View Post
    Doesn't bother me. Who do you think gave them to your mom.

    I'm like Johnny crab apple seed
    So if you gave them to my Mom... And my first infestation was on my noggin at birth... Dad?

    You bastard. I should have known with that screen name you old hippie prick. How long have you been out of the clink? And why are you 17ing mom again?

    You said it was like throwing a hotdog down a hallway wallpapered with 20 grit sandpaper....

    You said when I was conceived it was a true miracle because, she was so dry in there that your seed came out as a powder and a 1 in a billion queef backdraft must of sucked me like a single grain of sand being blasted through the petrified egg that had been there for decades...

    You said you only hooked up with her cause you had been on a ten day project cleaning up dead catfish in August when a levy broke at catfish farm. When you went to the bar she was sitting all alone and was the only person that didn't leave when you walked in the door.. 3 days later when your nose blindness subsided, you finally realized the fish broke the levy when she jumped in for a skinny dip...

    I am not mad father, just disappointed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HotMop View Post
    He warned me too, didn't listen.
    Woof. I always thought I knew what a hot mop was... Now I realize you prolly tried to burn them suckers out.


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    Student attendance is declining across the college football landscape. Itís probably due to other options, etc. we used to leave games early all of the time before social media. If they canít be lit they wonít stay these days.

    The drop isnít horrible. A 6pm game against auburn LSU Bama it will be packed.

    For adults the main issue isnít laziness, itís the exorbitant cost year after year that doesnít march instep with salaries of adults. You could buy a Bama big game ticket for $100-$125 ten years ago, decent seats. Now that same tickets coast well over $500. Thatís just scalping them, imagine the cost to have the season tickets.

    Most people earn through salary and salaries havenít increased by 5x over ten years.


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    Maybe I was not clear in my initial post. My question was how is the future of college football going to impacted by the current less than football rabid crop of students, not just at State but everywhere, when it comes to donating back to the schools when they become alumni?

    In short, does football still matter as much to kids or has lost its luster to the point where it will eventually may be devastating to fund raising?


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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheaddawg View Post
    I love watching and keeping up with other games on my phone while attending games (when my signal is good enough)

    You may see me looking down at my phone in the stands, but the truth is a I'm a BIGGER sports fan than you because I got multiple games going at one time.

    If you are a real sports fan why wouldn't you take advantage of technology? Why isn't the OP a real football fan? Why is the OP spending so much time looking at other fans instead of the field and his ESPN app on his phone?....it sounds like the OP isn't really a super fan
    I literally made no reference in my OP to anything you are babbling about.


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