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    OT: UFO’s

    Don’t know if y’all watched 60 minutes but now that the Pentagon has admitted they don’t know what these “things” are. Admitted seeing a phenomenon that descended 80,000 feet in a second in 2004 among numerous other videos in more recent years. Is the military throwing out the the unknown object declaration as a red herring to throw off the Russians and Chinese or is it something “else.”

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    Sorry but hold on a second, I feel like there is more here. The object descended 80,000 feet in one second and then... what? Cratered?

    Was it Bitcoin?
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    BitDogEther*** briefly popular in crypto land


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    I’m guessing there will be more statements like this as cell phone cameras improve and spread. Military R&D projects are gonna get caught on camera occasionally. They won’t confirm or deny they are real. They’ll just play dumb. And yes, probably some of it is staged to mess with other countries


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    Quote Originally Posted by PineGroveBully View Post
    Don’t know if y’all watched 60 minutes but now that the Pentagon has admitted they don’t know what these “things” are. Admitted seeing a phenomenon that descended 80,000 feet in a second in 2004 among numerous other videos in more recent years. Is the military throwing out the the unknown object declaration as a red herring to throw off the Russians and Chinese or is it something “else.”
    Mjoelner knows a guy that used to work at Area 51. I won't still the thunder of his story but if he sees this maybe he'll post it here.


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    He knows this guy?
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    The funny thing with this guy's stories is, if they were true, he would have probably had a 'car accident' by now. I imagine he is actually being paid by the government to spread stuff like he does. That's how I feel about the Roswell incident too. We had the bomb and were king of the world then the commies got it and evened the playing field. How do we get back ahead? Make them think we have alien technology.


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    No doubt. If even 1/10 of his stories were true, we would have never even heard of him or his stories.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh's Burner Phone View Post
    Mjoelner knows a guy that used to work at Area 51. I won't still the thunder of his story but if he sees this maybe he'll post it here.
    Here are two stories:
    1. The guy Hugh's Burner Phone is talking about is an Air Force vet and composite technician who performed repairs on the B2 fuselage. He used to catch the JANET flights out to Area 51. One time I asked him what all he had seen expecting to get a "Nothing" or a wild alien story from him. Instead, he just grinned and said "If you ever see a flying saucer, it's ours."

    2. Years ago as a student worker at Raspet Flight Lab, I asked the director who was a retired Air Force test pilot, if he had ever seen any weird stuff. He told me "I've seen shit in the air you wouldn't belieive existed".
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    I always wondered if the stuff they showed wasn’t ours. The only thing that throws me off is commandor F says there’s no way it was ours.


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    Isaac Arthur (one of the best channels on YouTube) had a great video on this. He's an actual scientist, not some conspiracist or crank, and also former military himself, and sadly he thinks they're just planes or balloons acting normally, and that the Pentagon knows this but had a geopolitical motivation in releasing the videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaoarsKing View Post
    Isaac Arthur (one of the best channels on YouTube) had a great video on this. He's an actual scientist, not some conspiracist or crank, and also former military himself, and sadly he thinks they're just planes or balloons acting normally, and that the Pentagon knows this but had a geopolitical motivation in releasing the videos.

    I can’t take this video seriously. All I hear is Kripke from Big Bang Theory.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckTaker View Post
    I can’t take this video seriously. All I hear is Kripke from Big Bang Theory.
    You get used to it after you watch a few of his videos. I barely notice it anymore.


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    Remember swamp gas?


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    ^^^suspiciously avoids the bigfoot question


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    Did anyone see a UFO over the field during the Mizzou series?

    Quote Originally Posted by PineGroveBully View Post
    Don’t know if y’all watched 60 minutes but now that the Pentagon has admitted they don’t know what these “things” are. Admitted seeing a phenomenon that descended 80,000 feet in a second in 2004 among numerous other videos in more recent years. Is the military throwing out the the unknown object declaration as a red herring to throw off the Russians and Chinese or is it something “else.”

    Maybe they suited up in Mizzou uniforms. That would explain a lot!


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    I saw one at a football game a few years ago - red light going up and down pretty fast. It was a drone shooting night photos of the crowded stadium, but I can see how some might have thought it was a UFO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JungRebel View Post
    Sorry but hold on a second, I feel like there is more here. The object descended 80,000 feet in one second and then... what? Cratered?

    Was it Bitcoin?
    He might be referring to the Commander Fravor sighting. While doing a naval exercise somewhere off the west coast, him and his pilots saw a “tic-tac” shape object doing crazy stuff. It was caught on radar as well.

    He’s done many interviews talking about it, I would check the one on the Rohan podcast out.
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    The simplest explanation is that its something of ours..

    All the military technology that is in use today and everyone knows about has actually been around for 30-40 years. Think about what has been developed recently that nobody knows about..


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    Some of this stuff seems to really be pushing the laws of physics but yes, Occam’s Razor applies.
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    I don't see how anyone can believe our Gov't has this kind of technology and yet at the same time has Elon Musk blowing up rockets attempting to get us back yo the moon and on to Mars. Plenty of these videos show a craft flying at around 4 times the speed of anything we can do and then making right hand turns. Which should splatter the pilot all over the interior wall


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Cramden View Post
    I don't see how anyone can believe our Gov't has this kind of technology and yet at the same time has Elon Musk blowing up rockets attempting to get us back yo the moon and on to Mars. Plenty of these videos show a craft flying at around 4 times the speed of anything we can do and then making right hand turns. Which should splatter the pilot all over the interior wall
    Maybe there is no pilot inside the craft?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Cramden View Post
    I don't see how anyone can believe our Gov't has this kind of technology and yet at the same time has Elon Musk blowing up rockets attempting to get us back yo the moon and on to Mars. Plenty of these videos show a craft flying at around 4 times the speed of anything we can do and then making right hand turns. Which should splatter the pilot all over the interior wall

    First, look at the $$ being made and spent on traditional propulsion technologies, disruptive wouldn't even start to describe this. Second, if you're operating under F=ma limitations, then yes, all you'd have at the landing would be 'pilot goo' (Aortic dissection happens at about 50 G's), but if you're not and our current physics isn't accounting for something..... G's are defined in multiples of gravity (forces) and the detrimental affect on (human) mass increases as they go up. with the maneuvers these things are making there has to be a negation of traditional G's as we know it for personnel and equipment to survive. but what is gravity? if you've got a way to isolate (shield) the biomass inside from G's, negate the gravitational restrictions on the craft, provide a motive force by 'variably offsetting' the mag field around the craft (less on one side than the other thereby moving the craft in the 'lesser' direction), then you can go from where ever you are to anywhere you want to go in the blink of a eye. AND btw, the boundary between earth and space would be meaningless.

    but the biggie in this is that we could avoid game day congestion.............


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    Quote Originally Posted by fang View Post
    First, look at the $$ being made and spent on traditional propulsion technologies, disruptive wouldn't even start to describe this. Second, if you're operating under F=ma limitations, then yes, all you'd have at the landing would be 'pilot goo' (Aortic dissection happens at about 50 G's), but if you're not and our current physics isn't accounting for something..... G's are defined in multiples of gravity (forces) and the detrimental affect on (human) mass increases as they go up. with the maneuvers these things are making there has to be a negation of traditional G's as we know it for personnel and equipment to survive. but what is gravity? if you've got a way to isolate (shield) the biomass inside from G's, negate the gravitational restrictions on the craft, provide a motive force by 'variably offsetting' the mag field around the craft (less on one side than the other thereby moving the craft in the 'lesser' direction), then you can go from where ever you are to anywhere you want to go in the blink of a eye. AND btw, the boundary between earth and space would be meaningless.

    but the biggie in this is that we could avoid game day congestion.............
    Genius level. Good post


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    I'm so ready for the Aliens to take over.


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    Well, they're headed north in droves, so we'll see.


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    It's like they don't realize that they lost the war, and about half their country in the 1800's. Thank goodness we don't still fight lost causes over lost wars in these parts!***


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    No pilot is a good possibility. Remote control. But I do believe its aliens and that they have enough visiting for thousands of years.


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    Go dig on Skinwalker Ranch and then tell me there are no UFOs/aliens


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Cramden View Post
    No pilot is a good possibility. Remote control. But I do believe its aliens and that they have enough visiting for thousands of years.
    Pilot or not, if aliens can create a craft that can do that and they haven’t gone all Alderaan or Independence Day on us by now, it can only be assumed that they are good with everything here remaining as-is and are fine with us maintaining our simpleton existence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampDawg View Post
    Remember swamp gas?
    Ball lightning is a close second.


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    Not saying the laws of physics are immutable. Probably a lot more to learn about anti-matter, matter, time, and space....
    but ain't no 17n way actual aliens or Imperial probe droids are traveling that far and that long to this planet.
    Our military is conducting all sorts of experiments..... trillions of dollars worth. And that left hand ain't telling the right more than they need to know.


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    It may not take that long or that far for them. If they are real they have been visiting for thousands of years and no doubt understand worm holes and how to use them. Skinwalker ranch is okay but I get more from Ancient Aliens. My first cousin has been on that show a couple of times. Not every episode is interesting but quite a few are.


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    People have been recording them forever. Read the ancient Hindu sanskrit texts about them, or Sumerian texts or even the Bible. The Book of Enoch.


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