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    For those of you who want to fire Leach now

    Seriously, what's the endgame here?


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    Are there people who actually want to fire Leach?


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    Well, if he's going to lose to our rival every year and that's an issue for some people, wouldn't you say they want to fire him?


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    He won't be fired or hired away. But this loss seriously dampens my enthusiasm for the program.


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    We donít need Cohen hiring another coach. Just be glad the Giants offered Judge the job or we would be in a bigger mess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hatfieldms View Post
    Are there people who actually want to fire Leach?
    Two so far tonight. One is a lurker just waiting for any chance to say they were right about Leach all along.


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    I don't want him fired but he needs to understand how embarrassing that was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hatfieldms View Post
    Are there people who actually want to fire Leach?
    Iím sure Bill Lashley does. But hey, there are always idiots in every group.


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    Iím not sure about that to be honest. In the NFL itís all about your offensive line and QB and Judge inherited crap at both places.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg1976 View Post
    He won't be fired or hired away. But this loss seriously dampens my enthusiasm for the program.
    We dropped 2 touchdown passes in pouring rain in the first half. Assuming Sawyer isn’t some freak phenom, Will is going to be a preseason Heisman contender. We should have been 10-1 going into this game and should have won it. It’s like some of you guys want to go back to running it up the middle 3 times and punt it.

    Edited to ad: State is ALWAYS going to frustrate you, but this is a fun offense to watch when it is clicking. Ole Miss is going to be struggling next year while we are knocking on HOPEFULLY 10-11 regular seasons wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg0074 View Post
    Two so far tonight. One is a lurker just waiting for any chance to say they were right about Leach all along.
    Actually I have not said we need to fire him tonight. What I HAVE said is if he loses to them NEXT year, he absolutely has to go. We never should have hired him in the first place, but we can't fire two coaches in a row after winning seasons, UNLESS that coach loses three straight to Ole Miss. In that case we absolutely HAVE to fire him or we are giving tacit recognition that they are the superior program. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.
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    Iím not for firing leach this year but there should be people who are. Our team didnít show up tonight and thatís unforgivable. The coaches and players embarrassed every MSU graduate tonight by playing with absolutely no heart. They should all be ashamed.


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    Go sleep it off.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Shankly View Post
    Actually I have not said we need to fire him tonight. What I HAVE said is if he loses to them NEXT year, he absolutely has to go. We never should have hired him in the first place, but we can't fire two coaches in a row after winning seasons, UNLESS that coach loses three straight to Ole Miss. In that case we absolutely HAVE to fire him or we are giving tacit recognition that they are the superior program. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.
    Maybe we should see if Joe is available. 2-0 against Ole Miss.

    Our fans are idiots


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    They hate Leach and are literally hoping he will fail. Just so we can go grab someone like Napier who is gonna look to go elsewhere and get out of Starkville as soon as he has a good record, just like Merlinz did all the time .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Yeager View Post
    They hate Leach and are literally hoping he will fail. Just so we can go grab someone like Napier who is gonna look to go elsewhere and get out of Starkville as soon as he has a good record, just like Merlinz did all the time .
    I hate Ole Miss. I tend to like coaches who beat them, at least as much as they lose to them, and not like coaches that don't. I am a lifelong Mississippi resident and this game MATTERS to me on a personal every day level. If Leach was 2-0 against them I would like him a HELL of a lot better. He probably would have won me over despite my dislike for his offensive scheme. Mullen won me over by going 3-0 to start.


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    So Moorhead won you over? We should have kept him?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Shankly View Post
    Actually I have not said we need to fire him tonight. What I HAVE said is if he loses to them NEXT year, he absolutely has to go. We never should have hired him in the first place, but we can't fire two coaches in a row after winning seasons, UNLESS that coach loses three straight to Ole Miss. In that case we absolutely HAVE to fire him or we are giving tacit recognition that they are the superior program. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.
    If we go 9-3 next year and Ole Miss is one of the 3, you'd want him fired? You must be fuсking stupid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Shankly View Post
    I hate Ole Miss. I tend to like coaches who beat them, at least as much as they lose to them, and not like coaches that don't. I am a lifelong Mississippi resident and this game MATTERS to me on a personal every day level. If Leach was 2-0 against them I would like him a HELL of a lot better. He probably would have won me over despite my dislike for his offensive scheme. Mullen won me over by going 3-0 to start.
    You're an idiot. Mullen's 3 best teams got smoked by OM and he lost with a Jr Dak team going into EB with 10-1 record and a Sr Dak team going into EB with 9-2 record. You hate Leach and you'd still give Mullen a BJ to come back and coach us dipshit.


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    Good lord people if you canít see leach is a good coach then i am questioning humanity


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    Iím just looking for a coach that can raise some fire in the players and give the program some consistency. Iíd take Ď09-Ď13 Mullen back in a heartbeat. Even Moorhead knew how to get the team up for a rivalry game. Leach has no fire.


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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaoarsKing View Post
    If we go 9-3 next year and Ole Miss is one of the 3, you'd want him fired? You must be fuсking stupid.
    I was on the fence with Joe. I had come to believe that he probably wasn't going to work out HERE, (I think he will be the third coach in MSU history that went on to win a natty elsewhere), but I did think us firing a coach who was 2-0 against them and had not had a losing record was pretentious. It haunted us on the hire and will again. We can't fire Leach this year for somewhat similar reasons. Now if he loses the Egg next year then that changes things. People understand not being happy with three straight losses to a bitter but equal rival. If you want to get beyond the Egg..........the Memphis and LSU losses this year were really inexcusable in hindsight. I realize we got cheated against Memphis but we never should have been in a situation where that call mattered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JacksonCPAdawg View Post
    Good lord people if you can’t see leach is a good coach then i am questioning humanity
    Leach is exactly what he has always been. He is a known commodity. This is what we signed up for.


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    He has gone to 19 bowls in 21 seasons now. The guy is a good coach


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Yeager View Post
    You're an idiot. Mullen's 3 best teams got smoked by OM and he lost with a Jr Dak team going into EB with 10-1 record and a Sr Dak team going into EB with 9-2 record. You hate Leach and you'd still give Mullen a BJ to come back and coach us dipshit.
    Leach has yet to beat Ole Miss. When he does I'll think better of him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Shankly View Post
    Leach has yet to beat Ole Miss. When he does I'll think better of him.
    And once you do Iím sure Leach will finally be able to sleep at night


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    Quote Originally Posted by STLDawg View Post
    Iím just looking for a coach that can raise some fire in the players and give the program some consistency. Iíd take Ď09-Ď13 Mullen back in a heartbeat. Even Moorhead knew how to get the team up for a rivalry game. Leach has no fire.
    The team seemed pretty fired up to start the game but not scoring touchdowns, missing field goals and dropping passes lost the game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    I’m sure Bill Lashley does. But hey, there are always idiots in every group.
    Bill Lashly… I have to admit..that’s funny


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    Quote Originally Posted by hatfieldms View Post
    And once you do I’m sure Leach will finally be able to sleep at night
    He could care less, obviously. Now ME, I will absolutely sleep better when he beats them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Shankly View Post
    Leach has yet to beat Ole Miss. When he does I'll think better of him.
    go to sleep and dream about the triple option…you’ll feel better in the morning,..


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBarksalot View Post
    Bill Lashly… I have to admit..that’s funny
    Funnier than you know really! I was a BAD bench warmer on an 0-10 team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBarksalot View Post
    go to sleep and dream about the triple option…you’ll feel better in the morning,..
    If it will beat Ole Miss then I'm all in!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hatfieldms View Post
    He has gone to 19 bowls in 21 seasons now. The guy is a good coach
    And we are going to a bowl this year too. Your point?


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    The game was lost on lack of execution, period. In addition to our failed fg attempts and dropped td passes , we were 4 of 14 on third downs. We were not extending drives like we had the last few weeks and keeping their defense on the field. In addition Ole Miss led in time of possession.
    Last edited by SteelCurtain74; 11-26-2021 at 12:44 AM.


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    I personally think you should fire him. No positive trajectory for you guys*****
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    Dramatic post is dramatic

    Quote Originally Posted by UpTheMiddlex3Punt View Post
    Seriously, what's the endgame here?
    Nobody sane is asking for Leach to be fired. Yes, I'm concerned about his rivalry history, but I also am high on the direction we are trending. No reason not to support Leach right now and be all in - no reason to be dramatic either.

    GO DAWGS


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    Hypocrite

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Shankly View Post
    I was on the fence with Joe. I had come to believe that he probably wasn't going to work out HERE, (I think he will be the third coach in MSU history that went on to win a natty elsewhere), but I did think us firing a coach who was 2-0 against them and had not had a losing record was pretentious. It haunted us on the hire and will again. We can't fire Leach this year for somewhat similar reasons. Now if he loses the Egg next year then that changes things. People understand not being happy with three straight losses to a bitter but equal rival. If you want to get beyond the Egg..........the Memphis and LSU losses this year were really inexcusable in hindsight. I realize we got cheated against Memphis but we never should have been in a situation where that call mattered.
    You are nothing more than a 17 idiot. Go watch your black and white tv and enjoy your hard boiled eggs for breakfast. I have no doubt you are a poison pill on this board and hope you and your ilk just go away. I would love to see your monetary contribution to this university, which Iím confident is little to nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottfield1 View Post
    You are nothing more than a 17 idiot. Go watch your black and white tv and enjoy your hard boiled eggs for breakfast. I have no doubt you are a poison pill on this board and hope you and your ilk just go away. I would love to see your monetary contribution to this university, which I’m confident is little to nothing.
    How do you get a hypocrite? Serious question. Not liking a MSU coach that has never beaten Ole Miss isn't one that you can call me a hypocrite over. In fact I am absolutely dumbfounded that I am having to defend that line of reasoning to professed "MSU fans".


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    You dumb as hell mane

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Shankly View Post
    I was on the fence with Joe. I had come to believe that he probably wasn't going to work out HERE, (I think he will be the third coach in MSU history that went on to win a natty elsewhere), but I did think us firing a coach who was 2-0 against them and had not had a losing record was pretentious. It haunted us on the hire and will again. We can't fire Leach this year for somewhat similar reasons. Now if he loses the Egg next year then that changes things. People understand not being happy with three straight losses to a bitter but equal rival. If you want to get beyond the Egg..........the Memphis and LSU losses this year were really inexcusable in hindsight. I realize we got cheated against Memphis but we never should have been in a situation where that call mattered.
    Joe is a smart dude but he wasn't a match here.

    Leach isnt perfect but we are trending the right direction. We floored out this season and got 7 wins. Execute better with more experienced players and we are 8 wins minimum and 10 reasonably. I'm looking forward to the future, but we need to recruit better on defense for me to feel really good. Time will tell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oxfordrebel22 View Post
    I personally think you should fire him. No positive trajectory for you guys*****
    When Reb is basically telling you not to fire a guy.......................


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